Deca and which Test

Flipthe12

Grunts Can Do Anything
I am going to ad so Test to my Deca cycle I have a couple options which would be the best Test to stack. I am only going to ad a small amount 150 mg a week to 300mg of deca a week. These are the tests I am looking at. Nebido
Testosterone Propionate and Testosterone Enanthate Germany
 
You want to keep your test mg higher than the deca mg or equal atleast. I would use Sustanon because of the prop and it's ability to kick in / in a few days. Or you could just use straight prop but keep it at 300-400mg ew.
 
Sustanon 250 has 4 esters:
30mg phenylprop
60mg prop
60mg isocaproate
100mg deconate
 
Thanks Ozzy, Every time I take test over 150mg I turn into a madman do you know any ways I can prevent that.
 
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DADAWG, What do you think of Nebido?

never heard of it lol.
just did a search and in theory it sounds good but ive yet to see a test ester that could maintain STEADY test level for even a few weeks much less the 10 weeks thay are claiming .
if it sounds to good to be true then it PROBABLLY is.
 
I will give a try and let you know. what do you recommend for post cycle therapy (pct) on something like that? thanks
 
I will give a try and let you know. what do you recommend for post cycle therapy (pct) on something like that? thanks

its impossible to know when that new test has cleared out enough to run post cycle therapy (pct) unless you run bloodwork.
standard wait from last inject untill post cycle therapy (pct) starts is 3 weeks for deca/eq/sus/omnas
2 weeks for eth/cyp.
not it doesnt matter if its tren eth or test eth , its the ester that matters.
 
its impossible to know when that new test has cleared out enough to run post cycle therapy (pct) unless you run bloodwork.
standard wait from last inject untill post cycle therapy (pct) starts is 3 weeks for deca/eq/sus/omnas
2 weeks for eth/cyp.

not it doesnt matter if its tren eth or test eth , its the ester that matters.

following you Idea.

When To Start Clomid
The correct time to commence Clomid depends on the type and cycle of steroids you have been using. Different steroids have different half-lifes (indicates the time a substance diminishes in blood), and Clomid administration should be taken accordingly.

Clomid taken when androgen levels in our blood are still high will be a waste. It is crucial to wait for androgen levels to fall before implementing our Clomid therapy. However, if taken too late we could possibly lose gains.

The list below determines when you should start Clomid. Select from the list any steroids you've used in your cycle and whichever one has the latest starting point is the time to commence Clomid. For example, if Dianabol, Sustanon and Winstrol were cycled, the time for administering Clomid should be 3 weeks post cycle, as Sustanon remains active in the body for the longest period of time.

Steroid: ------- Time afterlast administration:-----Length of Clomid Cycle:

Anadrol50/Anapolan50:..........................8 - 12 hour .................... 3 weeks
Deca durabolan:.................................. 3 weeks .........................4 weeks
Dianabol:......................................... ....4 - 8 hours.....................3 weeks
Equipoise:........................ .................17 - 21 days ....................3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone:..............................3 days ............................3 weeks
Primabolan depot:...............................10 - 14 days .....................2 weeks
Sustanon:......................................... .3 weeks .........................3 weeks
Testosterone Cypionate:...................... 2 weeks ......................... 3 weeks
Testosterone Enanthate/Testaviron:........2 weeks .........................3 weeks
Testosterone Propionate:......................3 days ............................3 weeks
Testosterone Suspension:......................4 - 8 hours ................ 2-3 weeks
Winstrol.......................................... ....8 - 12 hours ................2-3 weeks

How To Take Clomid
Clomid has a long half-life (possibly 5 days), so there is no need to split up doses throughout the day. If Sustanon has been used and Clomid is commenced 3 weeks after the last injection, I would estimate that androgen levels are low enough to start sending the correct signals. If androgen levels are still a little high, we need to start at a high enough amount that will work or help, even if androgen levels are still a little high. Try 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.

hum hum i forgot to mention what could makes the trick with your liver, so, silmarol, legalon, are goods... their alot of like this kind of liver-protector and it's sheap to.

don't run Winstrol (winny). Winstrol (winny) is no good for you. and as i've read your post, you know already that;
Last edited by Kane_Red_Machine; 10-14-2008 at 10:12 PM.
 
Thanks for the info Kane, could I use that for Tamoxifen Ebewe (Nolvadex ) too. That seems to be what I can get my hand on.
 
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I just got some Prop from Pharmak but I cant get that much. maybe 10 weeks @ 300mg A week and 250mg deca.
 
Thanks for the info Kane, could I use that for Tamoxifen Ebewe (Nolvadex ) too. That seems to be what I can get my hand on.

Flip... i remember flipper the dolphin...
hum ok.

So novaldex intead clomid, is that you're asking.
it have to be discused, may be you could make a thread to ask...
making thread is always a good idea Flip.

So :
As an alternative to Clomid, which has been reported to have led to unwanted side effects such as visual disturbances in some users, Nolvadex can be employed. Nolvadex is a trade name for the drug Tamoxifen. Like Clomid, the half life of Nolvadex is relatively long enabling the user to implement a single daily dosing schedule. Administration would start as per the timescales outlined above and the duration would be identical to that of Clomid.

Typically, for a moderate-heavy cycle, the following dosages would be used:
Day 1 - 100mg
Following 10 days - 60mg
Following 10 days - 40mg

Occasionally, heavier cycles containing perhaps Nandrolone (Deca) or Trenbolone which by definition are particularly suppressive of the HPTA, may require a slightly longer therapy. Likewise, more modest/shorter cycles may require lower dosages, perhaps dropping each by 20mg per day.

but remember to ask other point of views,
before to own your.
 
I've had great success using both Clomid and Nolvadex together for 3-4 weeks for my PCT.

Generally I go:
Days 1-10: 100mg Clomid, 40mg Nolva
Days 11-21: 50mg Clomid, 20mg Nolva
Days 22-30: 20mg Nolva
 
I've had great success using both Clomid and Nolvadex together for 3-4 weeks for my PCT.

Generally I go:
Days 1-10: 100mg Clomid, 40mg Nolva
Days 11-21: 50mg Clomid, 20mg Nolva
Days 22-30: 20mg Nolva

never tried a combo [ hrt FTW lol ] but it looks like it should work very well.
 
never tried a combo [ hrt FTW lol ] but it looks like it should work very well.

doses are moderate enough, don't give you any terrible sides for the most part but I also run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout my cycle, so that helps me get back on track quicker than others

HRT would be great but I'm far too young for that...
 
Week Nolvadex/Tamoxifen Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20mgs/day
5 20mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

What about this??
 
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