Depression

house1

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this is a side effect i am having a hard time with right now -- i feel really down in the dumps!!

thank god for a good training partner --keeps me focused

my body aches like never before--i am very fucking tired and have not had sex with my wife for over 3 weeks now --

i realized it would be rough coming off after 2 years -- but still not liking it lol


these are things you must think about before running extra long cycles--its not fun for me right now

just keeping everyone updated on how things are going
 
Hang in there.....hopefully things will turn around pretty soon.

thanks stone

simplly, the basic bro--nolva -- i ran some hcg aswell--it filled out my balls but they have shrunk back up--
 
house1 said:
thanks stone

simplly, the basic bro--nolva -- i ran some hcg aswell--it filled out my balls but they have shrunk back up--
I would get on a low dose of test for post cycle therapy (pct), and get those balls to drop with some more hcg. Stay on for a little after they drop, but keep the hcg and then get on some nolva. I can honestly say the supps from the protein factory when accompanied by my post cycle therapy (pct) drugs helped quite a bit. But make sure to take 6 pills of each each day. It is a little costly but worth it.
 
Two year cycle?...it's going to be a very long time before your body returns to a normal hormonal state. The human body is very powerful in its ability to bring things back, but TIME might be the only answer here. You could opt for a low dose of Test, but that wouldn't help your ability to produce testosterone naturally as you know. Other than TIME, some supplementation with HERBS could possibly aid in your recovery.

Good luck and keep us posted!
 
House, how much were you running?

I know that people think that taper your dose at the end of a cycle is a waste of time, but I don't think so. If you ran a cycle for 2 years I think it would have been in your best interest to taper your dose down over a few weeks.

If you are running 1g of test per week, then stop cold turkey its going to be tough on your body. Remember its been on 1g for 2 years and it is used to that 1g. But if you slowly taper your dose, your body will slowly get used to the lower doses.

I know your natural test won't be recovered while tapering, but going from 1g/week - 750mg/week - 500mg/week -250mg/week - 0mg/week is going to be nicer on your body rather than 1000mg/week - 0mg/week all of a sudden.

I guess everyone has their opinion on the subject, but to me this makes the most sense. I'm sure someone is going to come on here and say the exact opposite thing, but this is what I feel is best.
 
That's rough bro. Keep your head up it won't last forever, even though it probably seems like it right now. And be nice to your wife, it sounds like you owe her one. It also sounds like you're overtraining for the state your body's in. Trying to match your old workouts will do more harm than good right now. Take it easy bro. Just my 2 cents. Good luck.
 
Dont give up bro i know how you feel ive struggled with depression for the last 10years and you dont have to live with it. Go and see your GP and tell him or her how you feel they may give you a anti-deprssent that will help you heaps
One of the reasons your so tired is not only comming of your cycle but the deprssive state your in.
Hope that helps you mate
 
House you are in your 30's correct? I do not understand why you are trying to go natural, unless you are trying to have another child down the road. Your natural test would probably be starting to drop if you were natural your whole life, so why not just get on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)? I know exactly what you are going through man and it is no fun for anyone who is in your life. I a interested in your reasoning for coming off, but if it is personal than I completely understand and best of luck with everything, you will make it.

silver, i knew my test levels would plummet -- i waited for the right time to go see the doc-

;)

i will be going the hrt route as soon as i get the rest of my tests done--oct 4 and 7th

nov1 , i am back on -- i came off to get a break -- my doses were going past what i feel comfortable running-
so a little break was needed--

just was not ready for the down side of my test levels taking a dump -- just feel like total shit-
 
just came off a 5 month cycle and Im having a hrd time focusing on on trainingn and diet. I cant imagine 2 yrs, good luck
 
house1 what was your highest dose of test honestly if you dont mind?

honestly -- a gram but i have run at various times ,tren,masteron , eq with the test- if you add up each at certain times i was over 2 grams total drugs
 
house1 said:
honestly -- a gram but i have run at various times ,tren,masteron , eq with the test- if you add up each at certain times i was over 2 grams total drugs
hang in there my friend . how much weight you holding now ?
 
Well if you are back on, I'd guess the depression will subside.

I've been on for almost a year now and have no immediate plans to go off. If I did, I'd be wary of emotional issues, I've gotten separated recently and don't want to push my luck.

Anway, we're all here for you bro and hope you feel better. From all appearances, you seem to have a great life, so I tend to think this is mostly related to hormonal swings.
 
how much weight you holding now ?

whats up dawg--

285 lbs:) -- i boosted my calories big time when i came off-- i have backed off alittle ! was starting to get to heavy-


trevdog, i am not back on yet -- another 4 weeks then its go time-- unless the doc gives me test next week :D
 
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