Do I need PCT with Var and HGH

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Ive started taking Var and HGH as i was told it wouldn’t shut me down, now after reading on here i fear it might,

Im half way through, only taking 20mg var 0.9iu growth daily.

Should i need pct for just these two? or be adding some test in?

I only wanted to move some stubborn belly fat
 
Var will shut down your HPTA. HGH will not

Not only do you need PCT when you are done, but you need to be taking testosterone (injections) while running the Var. The Var is shutting down your HPTA and you don't want to be without testosterone your entire cycle.

By the way, HGH over many months can help with fat loss. But steroids don't "burn" fat. You need to work on your diet if you want to lose the belly fat.
 
Thanks for the advice fellas,

I've bought sust 300, HCG Clomid and Nolvadex. I've taken my first jab of 1ml last night Im planning on running the var till the sus is finished then start the PCT two weeks after.

I plan to get the bloods done after alls is finished and see where I'm at.

I realize I've gone about this arse backward and shouldn't jump into this without doing my own research and looking into things myself. Lesson learned hopefully.

if I've done anything wrong or any more advice would be greatly appreciated
 
How much sust ya running weekly? Gonna get bloodwork in a few weeks and consider adding anastrozole if needed? My first cycle sent my estrogen through the roof. Was just 400mg cyp per week.
Just curious
 
Just the 300mg, 1 mL a week for ten weeks plus the Var and Hgh still, I ordered some proviron but the guy keeps letting me down for it.

Would you suggest i run an anti-estrogen with these now?

Edit: I've also upped the HGH to 1.8iu with the new pen and will probs do the same with the next one to 2.7
 
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Just the 300mg, 1 mL a week for ten weeks plus the Var and Hgh still, I ordered some proviron but the guy keeps letting me down for it.

Would you suggest i run an anti-estrogen with these now?

Edit: I've also upped the HGH to 1.8iu with the new pen and will probs do the same with the next one to 2.7

Me personally? I need anastrozole even at these doses. I get labs to confirm. I DO NOT wait for sides and then try to fight them. Waiting for sides can put you in a situation where it's too late.....especially if ya don't see it coming pretty early.
I'm not saying you have to use an AI, I'm saying you should get bloodwork. Just go to a private lab and pay for it.

Given the option I'd take a little anastrozole even without labs before I'd roll the dice and try to fight sides. That's just me
 
You’re right to be concerned about the potential impact of Anavar (Var) on your natural testosterone production, even at a lower dose, and it’s also important to understand how HGH interacts with your HPTA.

### Anavar and HPTA Suppression:
While Anavar is considered a milder anabolic steroid, it can still cause **mild suppression of the HPTA** (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis), especially if taken for an extended period. Even at 20 mg/day, which is a relatively low dose, Anavar still has the potential to suppress your natural testosterone production. However, the suppression may not be as severe as with stronger steroids, but it’s not insignificant either.

### Human Growth Hormone (HGH):
HGH, on the other hand, does not suppress your natural testosterone production directly. However, it can potentially affect your overall hormonal balance and indirectly impact recovery, muscle building, and fat loss. **HGH doesn’t directly require a PCT**, but combining it with anabolic steroids like Anavar could make your overall hormonal regulation a bit more complicated, especially if you are trying to maintain natural testosterone production.

### Do You Need PCT?
Given that Anavar can suppress your natural testosterone production, **you may need PCT** after your cycle ends, especially if you plan to come off Anavar for a while. Here's what to consider:

1. **Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT)**: Since you're using a steroid, it’s likely you'll need **Clomid** or **Nolvadex** as part of your PCT to help kickstart your natural testosterone production. PCT typically begins 1-2 weeks after stopping steroids like Anavar, depending on the half-life.

2. **Adding Testosterone**: If you are concerned about suppression, adding **testosterone** (often referred to as "test base") during the cycle would help maintain healthy testosterone levels. This would prevent you from feeling low energy, having low libido, or experiencing other signs of low testosterone during the cycle. If you're not adding testosterone, your body might struggle to maintain normal levels.

### Key Points:
- Anavar at 20 mg/day may still suppress your natural testosterone production, so **PCT is likely needed** after the cycle.
- HGH does not directly suppress testosterone but doesn’t fully counteract the suppression caused by Anavar.
- If you are concerned about HPTA shutdown, adding **testosterone to your cycle** (even at a low dose) could prevent low testosterone symptoms, especially during and after the Anavar cycle.

### Recommendation:
- **Monitor Symptoms**: If you notice symptoms like low libido, fatigue, or mood changes, it’s a good indicator that your testosterone levels are suppressed and you might need to consider adding testosterone or starting PCT after the cycle.
- **Consult with a healthcare professional**: It's always good to discuss your plan with a healthcare provider who specializes in hormone therapy or performance enhancement to manage risks properly.

In summary, while Anavar and HGH alone might not necessitate an immediate PCT or test base addition, you should consider the potential for suppression and plan accordingly. Adding testosterone and preparing for a proper PCT would help maintain your hormonal balance.
 

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