Do you play russian roulette when you cycle?

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Today I read where an idiot said he like the way he looks for excess water retention.

This fool didn't take into account the high blood press that comes from it. THe point of this thread is you al should be using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with every cycle.

 

[John102london]

On the question of water retention... creatine must also cause high blood pressure because i noticed when i was taking purple K i got some nose bleeds my doctor said high blood pressure was the culprate? but we both know doctors are mostly full of shit so who knows

 

[Mr P]

Today I read where an idiot said he like the way he looks for excess water retention.

This fool didn't take into account the high blood press that comes from it. THe point of this thread is you al should be using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with every cycle.

TRUE THAT, I always take Aromatase inhibitor (AI) over the counter when poping drol, just get ripped,

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

On the question of water retention... creatine must also cause high blood pressure because i noticed when i was taking purple K i got some nose bleeds my doctor said high blood pressure was the culprate? but we both know doctors are mostly full of shit so who knows

High BP should never be over looked.

 

[John102london]

i dont overlook it.. i changd my diet and stoped using creatine..

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

well i agree that you should monitor BP-but i do not agree with using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with every cycle-it def takes away from my intensity

 

[surfdog]

what kind of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) do you recommend

 

[drewbolic]

IMO after reading up on the benefits and negatives of running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during a cycle,its far more beneficial to use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and keep side in check.Plus keeping estro in check is a quicker way to recovery post cycle.

 

[surfdog]

I was told to use tamoxsifen 40mg a day for the cycle and no pct, will this work

 

[Rougen123]

I was told to use tamoxsifen 40mg a day for the cycle and no pct, will this work

no that sounds retarded.

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

no that sounds retarded.

couldnt have said that better..

 

[b_saan]

well i agree that you should monitor BP-but i do not agree with using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with every cycle-it def takes away from my intensity

Agreed. I drink plenty of water, eat well, monitor my vitals, take the necessary suppliments to help out with BP/Liv function/general health and don't take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle. Never had gyno issues and have never had any issues rebounding after my PCT, hell back in the old, old days (mid/late '90s) I never did any AIs or PCTs (and I should have PCT'd obviously) and didn't have any sides or major recovery issues and I ran some heavy cycles back then.

Everyone's body is different and figuring out what works for yours is goal number 1 of this activity. That doesn't mean I disagree with recommending that people consider using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), just that blanket statements aren't always the best advice.


Also, people that read and respond to these threads (ie. newbies) need to learn the difference between an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and a SERM...

 

[Mudge]

High BP kills organs and weakens your eyesight, the "silent killer."

 

[taledog]

you better keep an eye on bp if you dont want to be on dialysis 3 days a week 4 hours a day that shit sucks.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

well i agree that you should monitor BP-but i do not agree with using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with every cycle-it def takes away from my intensity

Well Mr oak 8 months of cycling doesn't make an expert. The proper use of an Aromatase inhibitor will not effect your strength.

Note I'd be careful with any OTC AI.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

lol-i know this dpr

its been longer than 6 months

and i just dont like how it hurts intensity-there is no way around it for me-taking an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) hurts my intensity in the gym-i can not feel my test as much-i can tell the difference.

i have studied and studied and studied this subject-and blood pressure is the only thing i can see that is a negative to water retention.

besides blood pressure-is there anything im missing that would make water retention such a bad thing?

im not cycleing to look good on my cycle-im cycling to look good when im off

and when i hit my genetic limit-and need to cycle to look the way i want-then of course i would use an AI

with all the shit ive ran on this cycle-i have had no sides without an AI-my blood pressure hasnt moved. yea i got moon face-but i dont care about that. What i dont want-is my intensity to go down at all-i perceive this as gains

Intensity-food-sleep = gains

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

besides water retention can be controlled by diet-from what ive learned

dehydration being the most common cause

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

There are many other issues that elevated estrogen effect in the body. It is never a good idea to elevate your estrogen levels.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

well........change my mind then DPR! explain!

 

[Skurten]

Fuck high BP, I take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) so I can creep on bitches without my moon face scaring them away