CptFKNplanet
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Fuck you asshole.
Do you think one of them is using gear pt. 2
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Fuck you asshole.
Armed and dangerous
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The boys team only lost one game, they had 3 of their realy good 9th graders hurt and couldn't pull off the last game. They had a heck of a season though.
3J
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ok boys.. let me give you guys some background and let you chime in... my last cycle was 2011... just decided i didn't want to pin anymore...
i got my bloodwork done january of this year... test levels were in the gutter... decided to ignore it..
now, did bloodwork again this morning to see where im at.. looking to possibly start hrt..
here is the bloodwork from january
estradiol 27.6 7.6-42.6
fsh 4.1 1.5-12.4
LH 4.8 1.7-8.6
testosterone 238 248-1197
everything else was WNL... CBC and Metabolic panel looked good with the exception of mch levels which were barely out of range on the low end
i got my bloodwork done january of this year... test levels were in the gutter... decided to ignore it..
now, did bloodwork again this morning to see where im at.. looking to possibly start hrt..
here is the bloodwork from january
estradiol 27.6 7.6-42.6
fsh 4.1 1.5-12.4
LH 4.8 1.7-8.6
testosterone 238 248-1197
everything else was WNL... CBC and Metabolic panel looked good with the exception of mch levels which were barely out of range on the low end
3J
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I agree. I wonder why my test levels were in the gutter though.
Again this is a test almost 10 months old. I gave blood today so I'm expecting new results tomorrow.
I have the clomid on hand and would much rather use it to take my levels up vs trt. Trt will be the last resort.
Again this is a test almost 10 months old. I gave blood today so I'm expecting new results tomorrow.
I have the clomid on hand and would much rather use it to take my levels up vs trt. Trt will be the last resort.
3J
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which is a bit weird.. i dont have gyno.. i do have lypomastia.. i do get bitch tits if i gain too much weight.. but i have taken a ultrasound and mammogram to rule out gyno...
on my last cycle without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) my e levels were 162 (same range value as above) so i do have a tendency for conversion....
if it is primary hypo.. then why is my estrogen level as low as it is.. if im not mistaken there would be higher estrogen levels due to more estrogen secretion???
halfwit
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Hahaha, wait till those quads start filling out even more. At my peak I had like 38" quads when I was into powerlifting. Had to buy really big pants and have them taken in at the waist. What a pain in the rear!
Now imagine being 6'7" and EVERYONE wondering if EVERYTHING is bigger on you. It's pretty damn creepy to have guys of all ages trying to sneak peeks at your junk because they're curious. I swear the next guy that does it is getting piss on his shoes.
You're honestly mid-range for pituitary hormones brother. You may be starting to see some andropause action going on here with primary. I hate to disagree with Dre, but with a healthy LH like that; I don't honestly think a restart will do much for you. It might be time to hop on the TRT train. How have you been feeling with that low of a test? Getting fatigued a bit easier (I know you're in shape, but I'm sure you can tell a difference), or finding it harder to focus on things?
I'd hate to see your trough to be honest.
halfwit
I like turtles.
162pg/mL is actually pretty good for no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to be honest. I'd be scared to see what my fat ass would convert without an AI... When I found out I was primary, my total test was 120ng/dL with an E2 of 29pg/mL - the body just likes to keep that E2 around the 20's to 30's mark for some reason.
halfwit
I like turtles.
XDM40, my favorite bedside, in car and carry gun.
That note made my dick hard, not going to lie. How's the recoil on that sexy little thing?
3J
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Hahaha, wait till those quads start filling out even more. At my peak I had like 38" quads when I was into powerlifting. Had to buy really big pants and have them taken in at the waist. What a pain in the rear!
Now imagine being 6'7" and EVERYONE wondering if EVERYTHING is bigger on you. It's pretty damn creepy to have guys of all ages trying to sneak peeks at your junk because they're curious. I swear the next guy that does it is getting piss on his shoes.
You're honestly mid-range for pituitary hormones brother. You may be starting to see some andropause action going on here with primary. I hate to disagree with Dre, but with a healthy LH like that; I don't honestly think a restart will do much for you. It might be time to hop on the TRT train. How have you been feeling with that low of a test? Getting fatigued a bit easier (I know you're in shape, but I'm sure you can tell a difference), or finding it harder to focus on things?
I'd hate to see your trough to be honest.
i workout pretty hard bro when im not too busy.. with the new business the gym has taken a bit of a back seat.. im probably hovering around 19-20% right now.. 280lbs... not really ideal in my head.. i like to sit at 15%..
but yea.. lethargic.. lower sex drive (started cialis to combat this).. longer recovery time.. more easily injured..
still train jiu jitsu about 4-5 times a week.. and if i had it my way it would be 5 days week jiu jitsu followed by 3 powerlifting sessions.. like a 5/3/1
time constraints have stopped that in the last month or so.. so has injury
i have two worn down knees (not diagnosed but im feeling it).. bilateral ac joint issues too..
been getting tired in the afternoons.. using coffee to keep me going.. its a mess..
now explain to me why exactly you disagree with dre.. and why a restart would not work??
i think we are speculating until i get my new labs.. but its good info regardless
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Now imagine being 6'7" and EVERYONE wondering if EVERYTHING is bigger on you. It's pretty damn creepy to have guys of all ages trying to sneak peeks at your junk because they're curious. I swear the next guy that does it is getting piss on his shoes.
Sorry brother you'd prob pee on my shoes hahahahahaha
halfwit
I like turtles.
The way a restart works is by introducing clomid (usually) which tricks the HPTA into thinking you have low estrogen. This causes your pituitary gland to secrete more LH, in an attempt to bring your testosterone up - to make more estrogen. As you already have an LH signal that's smack-dab in the middle of the "range", and you're seeing very low levels of testosterone; it's not typical to see a greater output regardless of the LH level. I've seen a handful of guys with an LH at right about where you're at and I'd say maybe 1 out of 10 were able to get a response from an increased LH level.
It's usually the guys that have the typical LH/FSH in the gutter that restarts show the greatest response to. Say you had an LH of 1.2 and FSH of .8; bumping that LH up to a healthy 15, would most likely give some fantastic results. As your pituitary is indeed still sending out a decent signal, I don't honestly think it will do much. Then again, I'm not a doctor - and a restart *might* do something for you, I just don't see it being the fix here.
You definitely sound like you're suffering from the low T symptoms though. I honestly think that you'll feel MUCH better once you're able to bring that T right back up to snuff.
halfwit
I like turtles.
LOL. Et tu A&D? Et tu??
God I love arm days. Such a guilty pleasure, but man I dig the attention from the ladies at the gym.
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curiosity killed the cat and got his shoes peed on hahahaLOL. Et tu A&D? Et tu??
God I love arm days. Such a guilty pleasure, but man I dig the attention from the ladies at the gym.
3J
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The way a restart works is by introducing clomid (usually) which tricks the HPTA into thinking you have low estrogen. This causes your pituitary gland to secrete more LH, in an attempt to bring your testosterone up - to make more estrogen. As you already have an LH signal that's smack-dab in the middle of the "range", and you're seeing very low levels of testosterone; it's not typical to see a greater output regardless of the LH level. I've seen a handful of guys with an LH at right about where you're at and I'd say maybe 1 out of 10 were able to get a response from an increased LH level.
It's usually the guys that have the typical LH/FSH in the gutter that restarts show the greatest response to. Say you had an LH of 1.2 and FSH of .8; bumping that LH up to a healthy 15, would most likely give some fantastic results. As your pituitary is indeed still sending out a decent signal, I don't honestly think it will do much. Then again, I'm not a doctor - and a restart *might* do something for you, I just don't see it being the fix here.
You definitely sound like you're suffering from the low T symptoms though. I honestly think that you'll feel MUCH better once you're able to bring that T right back up to snuff.
it is true.. i have always felt better on cycle.. but hey who hasn't right?? lol
ill post the bloodwork when it comes in tomorrow... then we can make a more educated decision.. thanks for your time half and dre
halfwit
I like turtles.
Hahahahhaa. I just don't get it to be honest. We all know through porn that men come in all sizes and the dudes that are hung like horses are usually average height. I have to admit if it weren't uncomfortable for me, I'd probably embarrass the shit out of them for spyin on my manly parts.
Definitely looking forward to those results brother. Even if this turns out the way you don't like; you can always make lemonade from those lemons as many of us on TRT have.
3J
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Hahahahhaa. I just don't get it to be honest. We all know through porn that men come in all sizes and the dudes that are hung like horses are usually average height. I have to admit if it weren't uncomfortable for me, I'd probably embarrass the shit out of them for spyin on my manly parts.
Definitely looking forward to those results brother. Even if this turns out the way you don't like; you can always make lemonade from those lemons as many of us on TRT have.
trt was going to happen regardless.. i just wanted to wait a few years.. wife might want to have kids at some point.. but i dont believe trt to be birth control.. make it a little harder? maybe.. but not stop me from having kids
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You've got to get the, i will kick you to the moon look out faster next time