Does Tren Enthanate cause a lil water weight?

ready2explode said:
No, androgens can directly promote water retention without aromatizing.

That's my point damn it!!! I'm with ya! (Re-read my comment) :p

"Androgen therapy can cause water retention, with the fear of exacerbation of hypertension or inducing or worsening congestive heart failure in older men undergoing such therapy. Weight gain thought to be due to water retention has been demonstrated ( J Clin Endocrinol Metab 75:1092, 1992; JAm Geratr Soc 41:149, 1993), but no study has shown clinically significant pathology due to this retention."
 
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Trevdog said:
Bro, I have no idea how you can claim that "tren can cause bloat to a great degree". That's pure nonsense.

i also stated that the amount you are doing does matter! Like say you are new to the game and you did something like a 100mg per day..that I gaurantee will bloat you more compared to doing say 25mg of dbol a day or even just doing 50mg of finaplix per day. knowing how much is too much for you is key. I agree that finaplix can get you ripped and hard if you dont over do it or if your body is well experienced with strong androgens. The dosage is key.
 
big N said:
i with trev on this ,can we see spome scientific proof or evidence of some sort plese if it cuases so much bloat then why wopuld they use it as a precontest drug ,and u got bloat from prov ????thatsa fucking first ,it actually takes some bloat ouyt and help in hardening u up .

ill say it again.......the amount is key. I stated the issue of fina bloat based on my own experience. I never just come up with theories or anything like that since that can mislead many people, and can spread wrong information. I did too much fina for my own good. I did about 100mg a day with test and proviron, and I bloated more than when I did deca, dbol, and test!!! MY OWN EXPERIENCE. 100mg of fina can work great on someone else and get them ripped.... someone that has more experience and someone that has more beef to begin with.
 
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excess androgen causes stress on the body. Anything that causes physical stress will bloat you and I will stand by my opinion. LACK OF SLEEP......EXCESS FOOD......EXCESS PROTIENS.....HEAVY DRINKING.....HEAVY WEED SMOKING......AND HEAVY ANDRGOEN USE.....AND SO ON
 
bluewizz said:
i also stated that the amount you are doing does matter! Like say you are new to the game and you did something like a 100mg per day..that I gaurantee will bloat you more compared to doing say 25mg of dbol a day or even just doing 50mg of finaplix per day. knowing how much is too much for you is key. I agree that finaplix can get you ripped and hard if you dont over do it or if your body is well experienced with strong androgens. The dosage is key.


Bro, how could you possibly "guarantee" me that 100 mgs. of tren per day is going to bloat ME at all, or that it will bloat ME more than 25 mgs. of dbol per day.

I've gone as high as 150 mgs. of tren per day without any bloat whatsoever.

Tren doesn't cause bloating at any dose, period.

I suspect that the above quote regarding "androgen therapy" is referring more specifically to testosterone. I seriously doubt it is referring to trenbolone.

Anavar is considered an androgen. Have you ever heard of anyone getting bloated from anavar? I didn't think so.
 
If you get bloated on tren it's probably due to high sodium diet not conversion to estrogen like the bloat from d-bol or test.
 
Trevdog said:
Bro, how could you possibly "guarantee" me that 100 mgs. of tren per day is going to bloat ME at all, or that it will bloat ME more than 25 mgs. of dbol per day.

I've gone as high as 150 mgs. of tren per day without any bloat whatsoever.

Tren doesn't cause bloating at any dose, period.

I suspect that the above quote regarding "androgen therapy" is referring more specifically to testosterone. I seriously doubt it is referring to trenbolone.

Anavar is considered an androgen. Have you ever heard of anyone getting bloated from anavar? I didn't think so.

never mind. this will go no where if u just completely try to ignore what i am saying word by word. thank u for giving an example like anavar, which is a very weak androgen compared to tren. how could the two be compared!!?! and how can you completely ignore the fact that i stated very clearly that the level of bloat will defer from person to person based on their past experience with androgen use. and other things like diet ofcourse.
Writing "PERIOD" after u state that tren does not cause bloat will not make your argument stronger, just tells me that no matter what you wont be convinced!! The only mistake I made is say "gaurantee". sorry ill take that word back and say "most probably".....happy?! All i did was tell everyone what happened to me and its not like im the only one saying that tren can cause bloat. Im done with this thread. gots-to-go-to-bed-now
 
I am not ignoring what you are saying word for word, but I was rejecting what were saying. People reading this thread should not leave it with the impression that they may have water retention problems from using trenbolone, it won't happen.

I apologize if I'm wrong, and I must admit anything is possible, but I just cannot accept that anybody can get the kind of bloating you are describing from trenbolone. Yes, everyone is different, but there are limits to those differences.
 
If the tren enth causes water retention it has nothing to do with the ester it would be because of the tren alone.

However, and I can't find studies right now but I'll look later, tren can aromatize to progesterone which can cause gyno and water retention.
 
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