You ever use var with winny?  one of the best oral combo's ever..I personally  love this combo..Var has amazing collagen and elastic synthesis "fibrous  glycoprotein properties" (which is found in connective tissue)..So when  adding winny and joint related issues are a concern Var will simply combat that as while attempting to achieve a  HARDER,LEANER more vascular look that winny does so well for people..Others find winny worthless, but nothing gets me as hard and vascular as winny does (oral wise)..With var, it truly shines man!
60mgs var, 50mgs winny...(magical)
I know a ton of guys that run low dose var with many compounds especially while on tren when strength increase can get the better of ones ego,and joints..
Running var is not always  optimal for everyone's wallet, but you don't need much to experience  great effects at a lower dosage with the addition of winny...I almost  conciser it like a "Gear Hack" so to speak..Var has some great potential  at low and moderate dosages, the whole notion that high dosage is where  it's at is plain silliness, a matter of fact 60+ mgs of good legit var  can posses debilitating pumps, well for me at least..
The complimentary, synergistic effect  between var and winny is simply amazing, having the ability to run  lower dose var and subbing the gap with winny? Tits...