ECA in morning/pre workout, then albuterol in afternoon and evening? gernius/stupid?

[DreDay187]

lol.. bro please break it down in laymen terms if possible.

In your body there are 2 main types of adrenoceptors that are responsible for oxidizing and metabolizing fatty cells, namely alpha-receptors and beta-receptors. Alpha-receptors basically act to inhibits blood flow in adipose tissue and lipolysis (which is the breakdown of lipids or fats) while beta-receptors do quite the opposite. They increase lipolysis and blood flow into adipose tissue. The two ways of optimizing this would be to use an alpha-receptor antagonist like epinephrine and decrease the inhibition of lipolysis (using epinephrine is extremely sensitive and risky, not something anyone should jump into). The other way is using a beta-receptor agonist like clenbuterol, albuterol, and ephedrine (ECA stack) to in tease lipolysis.

Increasing blood flow into fatty cells and tissue is optimal bc it allows for more hormones to reach the fat cells and the added blood will help carry the fat away from the cell to be oxidized elsewhere. As Austinite mentioned, there are 3 different beta-receptors. ECA stack will act on the beta-receptors which will create an environment better suited for fat loss, provided you're eating in a deficit.

 

[kryzz]

^^ thanks that really helped in understanding the things. So overall what would be better as a fat loss agent, albuterol or ECA considering all the variables are same and eating in a deficit.

 

[Austinite]

Both are effective. The way ephedrine works, makes it garbage compared to the safer option; Albuterol.

 

[kryzz]

Both are effective. The way ephedrine works, makes it garbage compared to the safer option; Albuterol.

Cool, so what is a good dosing protocol for albuterol? 4mg every 4 hours ( 4mg three times, total 12mg) or higher

 

[Austinite]

Cool, so what is a good dosing protocol for albuterol? 4mg every 4 hours ( 4mg three times, total 12mg) or higher

6mg 3 times daily is good.

 

[kryzz]

6mg 3 times daily is good.

great ... 18mg a day is nothing in terms of money over here. It's available OTC in numerous brands and is as cheap as the cheapest medicine you will ever have (serious)

 

[Austinite]

great ... 18mg a day is nothing in terms of money over here. It's available OTC in numerous brands and is as cheap as the cheapest medicine you will ever have (serious)

you're not taking the inhaler, are you?

 

[kryzz]

No , not the inhaler. I bought 4mg tabs. Since they were dirt cheap, I bought a months worth just like that. The tabs are available in 2mg,4mg and 8mg, all very cheap. I have read about people taking inhalers. Is it better or what? Will take whatever is better.
Edit:- Also tabs with Short Acting version of the same brand are available, is that supposed to be better or same?

 

[Austinite]

No inhalers are a poor choice. You'd have to take 40 to 50 times the normal dose. Making it very expensive.

Tabs are no different than liquid, half life of the compound is not altered.

 

[kryzz]

ok one final question on this topic...what works better clen or albuterol considering both are beta 2 agonist drugs. This in terms of fat loss and ignoring the sides such as shakiness on clen.

 

[Austinite]

ok one final question on this topic...what works better clen or albuterol considering both are beta 2 agonist drugs. This in terms of fat loss and ignoring the sides such as shakiness on clen.

I can't comment on clen much. My experience with it is limited. 40mcg had me bedridden for 2 days. From that short experience, I'd say, for me, clen is not an option.

From data, based on metabolic pathways that clen utilizes, I'd say albuterol is far safer.

 

[Rida5d]

No , not the inhaler. I bought 4mg tabs. Since they were dirt cheap, I bought a months worth just like that. The tabs are available in 2mg,4mg and 8mg, all very cheap. I have read about people taking inhalers. Is it better or what? Will take whatever is better.
Edit:- Also tabs with Short Acting version of the same brand are available, is that supposed to be better or same?

U are right.. I get pharm grade albuterol with 2 $ per box. Couldn't believe that it existed in the pharmacy , and when they told me the price I was like: give me 15 boxes please.
I didn't count the tabs, but there were lots at 4 mg each tab.

 

[kryzz]

I can't comment on clen much. My experience with it is limited. 40mcg had me bedridden for 2 days. From that short experience, I'd say, for me, clen is not an option.

From data, based on metabolic pathways that clen utilizes, I'd say albuterol is far safer.

Cool... will go with albuterol than.. and see how much it helps losing those extra love handles

 

[kryzz]

U are right.. I get pharm grade albuterol with 2 $ per box. Couldn't believe that it existed in the pharmacy , and when they told me the price I was like: give me 15 boxes please.
I didn't count the tabs, but there were lots at 4 mg each tab.

lol.. u also from India bro?

 

[Austinite]

Good call.

Albuterol is safer than Clen.
Synephrine is safer than Ephedrine.

 

[Rida5d]

lol.. u also from India bro?

Jordan..
Clomid , nolvadex , albuterol , hcg, testosterone bayer, deca, pharm grade are dirt cheap.
Don't think to come near Adex, aromasin , cialis.. So damn expensive. Those will screw ur budget.

 

[kryzz]

Jordan..
Clomid , nolvadex , albuterol , hcg, testosterone bayer, deca, pharm grade are dirt cheap.
Don't think to come near Adex, aromasin , cialis.. So damn expensive. Those will screw ur budget.

that's cool.. here in india also almost the same things which you listed are very cheap(available through pharmacies) except for test and exemestane which are not that cheap but affordable through phamacies. If only Anavar (var) and tren was available through pharmacy one wouldn't need anything else through sources.

 

[Rida5d]

that's cool.. here in india also almost the same things which you listed are very cheap(available through pharmacies) except for test and exemestane which are not that cheap but affordable through phamacies. If only Anavar (var) and tren was available through pharmacy one wouldn't need anything else through sources.

I am sorry to ask u, but as u live in India I'm sure u crossed through alpha pharma products..
Are those human grade , or it is just a funky name ?

 

[kryzz]

I am sorry to ask u, but as u live in India I'm sure u crossed through alpha pharma products..
Are those human grade , or it is just a funky name ?

It's funny that you ask of it since I have been trying to get hold of these products and have done tons of research on them. Few things I came across about alpha pharma
- The alpha pharma from mumbai is made in India but they are not allowed to sell it in india, the license is only to sell outside
- Some products do come through back channels to indians but they are not as cheap as you would think
- I have been trying to get hold of Anavar (var) of alpha but they are too expensive, about 2/3rd of what you would pay but still
- there are many other brands available in india from outside which are supposedly cheaper
- sources have told me the results from alpha has been average ( ofcourse they might be saying this cuz they didnt have the stock of alpha at that moment and wanted to push other brands), nothing fabulous to talk about
- however on inter-net I keep hearing rave reviews about them all the time, and that is the reason I have been so tempted to try
- yes the alpha pharma name is legit but I don't have any personal experience with them, might use them in future though

If I try them, will let you know.

 

[Rida5d]

I have to disagree about the average results part.
Man , that's some good shit they got... I tried it and frankly speaking I loved it.
Expensive gear though..