Effective Prohormones

[Tony23]

Hey guys i have been lifting for a few years, ive been making great gains since ive started slow b ut hard work. however one of my freinds who has been doing the same things just took a PH (super dmz) with proper PCT. and sall great results. he is 19. we are both smart about the sport of bodybuilding and learned a lot over the past couple years. i do feel like i have an edge over others my age when comparing size and strengh, i am teenager,16 (almsot positive i am done growing height wise, and hit puberty hard when i was in 8th grade). Im not trying to be cocky at any of this, i kno there are many of u that kno much more then i do. I am also not a skinny bitch who wants to gain a lil muscle real fast and loss it all because i stop lifitng. but i am dedicated and willing to make the next step to gain even more size with a little help from a sutable PH. with all that said, what would be ideal for me is to take a prohormone that takin properly and repected with the right PCT would ultumatly not upset or destory my natural hormones like many steriods and strong Ph like tren. I am not very knowledgable about PH and need to be guided in the right direction to find a sutable PH for my senario.

Thankyou for checkin this out, i understand if you bring negative thoughts also.

 

[Big Hungry]

Your 16 and way way to young to even think about ph's. They will mess your liver and natural test up. Has your buddy done bloodwork to show hes fine and how well did he keep his gains? You should talk yo 3j about a diet plan, at you age that would do wonders for u

 

[Matthew121]

Tren is not a PH. It is the steroid of the gods.
Any ph named after it is a joke.

And stop taking phs. They can be worse for your hormone levels than a real cycle. You do t need any of that. At 16 you need a good diet and you're set.

 

[Cyclebrah]

stats?
height
weight
bf??

 

[popeye50]

I must agree and you will probably hear this from everyone you ask. At 16 years of age your hormones should be raging. Test levels are peaking in late teens. Good diet, hit the gym hard, you will be amazed at how much potential you WILL have. Also, almost all (if not all)ph's do not have significant long term studies on side effects, let alone any kind of FDA approval. I know you don't want to hear that but stick with the safe way, for now. Think of long term goals, life, health. Just because they are legal, does not mean they are safe for your maturing body.

 

[HereToStudy]

Agree with everyone else here.

 

[chain]

The only Advise you are gonna get from me is we all Respect your ambition but you have to fight the urges to get big fast. If you are in this for the long run then respect the body and the rules you will be fine. It is not just your liver but your receptors as well. The time will come and then you will be ready, be patient.

 

[ardbeg]

do lots and lots of squats. you've got plenty of T right now.

 

[Rosco FleX]

Your 16 and way way to young to even think about ph's. They will mess your liver and natural test up. Has your buddy done bloodwork to show hes fine and how well did he keep his gains? You should talk yo 3j about a diet plan, at you age that would do wonders for u

This^^. A good 3j diet would be great. Reach your natural potential before dabbing with PH and AAS.

 

[Big Hungry]

19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione is a progestin similar to trenbolone. The fda caught onto it in 08, they shutdown production of a few brands. Myogenix spawn was really good and worth using but if not used with test it was about useless would loose gains. Spawn was epi and the tren clone, a friend close to the manufacturer said it was dosed higher than listed. There was another named finiplex550 i think, it was good also. The label on that one didnt list a key indgredient. BUT STILL OP your not doing yourself a favor by using any ph no matter what it is.

 

[Do you even Lift]

M1T was the best pro hormone I ever used but If I could go back I would never of taken it, PH's can be much much harsher on your hormones than a real cycle, my PCT on m1t I felt like a hormonal women and un confident, after my first test cycle I didn't even notice a difference in PCT.

Eat big, lift big and when you're 21 consider using AAS once you know how to eat and train properly, not assuming you don't know but you learn a lot as time goes by.

 

[Tony23]

i got a lot of great advice. ive decided im not gonna be a dumb ass and use a phat my age. instead ill get big the natural way and have moe self pride,for now. I would like to add some new supplements that ive never decided to waste the money on but i got $ now haha. so are there any pre workouts or mass gainers that are worth my time. a lot of people say jack3d is good stuff. if you could give me advice about this thatd be great

I already take an isolate, mult. vit., casein, glutamine, fish oil, zma.

 

[Tony23]

Your 16 and way way to young to even think about ph's. They will mess your liver and natural test up. Has your buddy done bloodwork to show hes fine and how well did he keep his gains? You should talk yo 3j about a diet plan, at you age that would do wonders for u

big hungry could you please help me out on what you mean about tlkin to a 3j about diet plan

 

[stevejay]

i got a lot of great advice. ive decided im not gonna be a dumb ass and use a phat my age. instead ill get big the natural way and have moe self pride,for now. I would like to add some new supplements that ive never decided to waste the money on but i got $ now haha. so are there any pre workouts or mass gainers that are worth my time. a lot of people say jack3d is good stuff. if you could give me advice about this thatd be great

I already take an isolate, mult. vit., casein, glutamine, fish oil, zma.

Dude Everything right now is good you just need to eat eat eat properly and read read read.Knowledge is key. Like mentioned above check out the diet section you would be amazed at how much bigger you can get just from eating the right things at the right time. Smart move to stay natural now cause you are going to want family someday.

 

[MattPorter]

PATIENCE CHILD ---- become a food and training slave and expert FIRST --- 20 - 22 yrs old....make your choice...

-matt

 

[ryansm]

M1T was the best pro hormone I ever used but If I could go back I would never of taken it, PH's can be much much harsher on your hormones than a real cycle, my post cycle therapy (pct) on m1t I felt like a hormonal women and un confident, after my first test cycle I didn't even notice a difference in post cycle therapy (pct).

Eat big, lift big and when you're 21 consider using AAS once you know how to eat and train properly, not assuming you don't know but you learn a lot as time goes by.

M1T is not nor never has been a PH it is a steroid

 

[Do you even Lift]

M1T is not nor never has been a PH it is a steroid

Understand what you're saying but it is labelled as a ProHormone, it can be bought on various websites under the prohormone section.

 

[Do you even Lift]

i got a lot of great advice. ive decided im not gonna be a dumb ass and use a phat my age. instead ill get big the natural way and have moe self pride,for now. I would like to add some new supplements that ive never decided to waste the money on but i got $ now haha. so are there any pre workouts or mass gainers that are worth my time. a lot of people say jack3d is good stuff. if you could give me advice about this thatd be great

I already take an isolate, mult. vit., casein, glutamine, fish oil, zma.

Most people on here will direct you to 3j to ask for a diet plan, In my opinion that isn't neccecery. Bulking and cutting is as simple as kcals in vs kcals out. Eat your bodyweight in lbs *18 for bulking. High protein, high carbs, moderate fat. For cutting it's usualy about 2000 kcals low carb, high protein, moderate/high fat.

As for Jack3d that is a helluva drug! Your workout will be insane, you'll feel focused and full of energy, you will leave the gym pumped as fuark bro. The only problem with Jack3d is the tolerence build up, so I suggest using it only on days where you need that extra boost.

 

[Tony23]

thanks man, ya ill probly give jack3d a try. i like the zyzz refrence btw. but ya ill probly find a good diet to bulk up some where, i mean i eat 6 meal a day whole 9 yards, i just want shoming to follow by perfectly

 

[4everBulking]

Tren is not a PH. It is the steroid of the gods.
Any ph named after it is a joke.

And stop taking phs. They can be worse for your hormone levels than a real cycle. You do t need any of that. At 16 you need a good diet and you're set.

there was a VERY STRONG PH called Extreme Tren but was banned and the company was sued for selling real steroids and calling the pro hormones.