jack3d4life
Slave to the needle
Just the usual experiences. Gains dry/water? Strength/endurance etc
Effects to expect from tbol??
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halfwit
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Tbol definitely gives me a nice strength bonus, but it's very subtle. You definitely don't bloat up like dbol, and the pumps aren't nearly as insane as say anavar. It's easily one of my favorites as it does the job with moderate doses (50mg-75mg) and doesn't upset my stomach or wreck my liver values. I do like to run tbol with proviron though as they seem to really compliment a good test base.
I can't comment on endurance as I usually cycle with tren now, which kills my endurance deader than a door nail.
I can't comment on endurance as I usually cycle with tren now, which kills my endurance deader than a door nail.
jack3d4life
Slave to the needle
Tbol definitely gives me a nice strength bonus, but it's very subtle. You definitely don't bloat up like dbol, and the pumps aren't nearly as insane as say anavar. It's easily one of my favorites as it does the job with moderate doses (50mg-75mg) and doesn't upset my stomach or wreck my liver values. I do like to run tbol with proviron though as they seem to really compliment a good test base.
I can't comment on endurance as I usually cycle with tren now, which kills my endurance deader than a door nail.
That last bit had my dying haha. I'm somewhat of an athlete so no tren for me yet..
though I do want to so bad. Tell me me more about the proviron?? Im intrigued. I have 4 weeks worth of dbol sitting around as well to run at 50mg a day. I just dont want to get stupid puffy. Ever heqrd of 12weeks test kick started with 4 weeks of dbol and bridged with 6 weeks of tbol at the end?
halfwit
I like turtles.
That last bit had my dying haha. I'm somewhat of an athlete so no tren for me yet..
Proviron is the oral form of masteron, which is usually mislabeled as an anti-estrogen as it has a superior binding affinity over estradiol to your androgen receptors; keeping many of the sides at bay. Unfortunately, it doesn't actually reduce your estradiol levels - but it does drastically amplify your free testosterone as it also tends to lower your SHBG, which binds to test - lowering the amount that can freely play in your body, providing the benefits we seek. It's a very mild oral (it is still toxic), that doesn't provide a TON of gains, but definitely works well with testosterone due to the reasons above. I usually run it at 25mg ED, but 50mg ED is certainly possible and can be done safely.
I have seen quite a few folks run tbol like that, but I'm not personally a big fan of bridges as I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and just go right back to my cruise dose once a cycle is done. I do however enjoy kick-starts with orals as they do make up for that lead time needed by longer esters. You will definitely need to bump up that Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as dbol is one hell of an estrogen bomb, which some may like - but I too am not a fan of being puffy. Just remember, a bridge is kind of a lie as you're still on and suppressed - which kind of defeats the point of running a lower dose of AAS as your body knows what you're doing, and keeps that natural testosterone from being produced.
Oh, and yeah - if you're at all into sports, tren is a no-no haha.
My .02c
jack3d4life
Slave to the needle
Proviron is the oral form of masteron, which is usually mislabeled as an anti-estrogen as it has a superior binding affinity over estradiol to your androgen receptors; keeping many of the sides at bay. Unfortunately, it doesn't actually reduce your estradiol levels - but it does drastically amplify your free testosterone as it also tends to lower your SHBG, which binds to test - lowering the amount that can freely play in your body, providing the benefits we seek. It's a very mild oral (it is still toxic), that doesn't provide a TON of gains, but definitely works well with testosterone due to the reasons above. I usually run it at 25mg ED, but 50mg ED is certainly possible and can be done safely.
I have seen quite a few folks run tbol like that, but I'm not personally a big fan of bridges as I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and just go right back to my cruise dose once a cycle is done. I do however enjoy kick-starts with orals as they do make up for that lead time needed by longer esters. You will definitely need to bump up that Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as dbol is one hell of an estrogen bomb, which some may like - but I too am not a fan of being puffy. Just remember, a bridge is kind of a lie as you're still on and suppressed - which kind of defeats the point of running a lower dose of AAS as your body knows what you're doing, and keeps that natural testosterone from being produced.
Oh, and yeah - if you're at all into sports, tren is a no-no haha.
My .02c
Ill take .02c all day haha. You think 1mg adex eod plus a gallon h2o and clean eating will keep off most the bloat? Im not a believer in bridges either ive just seen everyone word it like that so I would break it down.
12 weeks
test e 1-12 500mg/week
Dbol 1-4 50mg/day
tbol 6-12 50mg/day
halfwit
I like turtles.
Honestly, I would drop that adex down to .5mg EOD while on the dbol and see how things go once it's cleared your system. .5mg EOD might be too much once you're only on the test, so keep an eye out for dry joints or feeling run-down. Of course a mid-cycle blood test will definitely help you to adjust your doses at that point. A two week break between orals is kind of short, but if you take 2g of NAC ED with Liv.52 - you could probably get away with it.
I'd start at a gallon of water minimum. Just try to drink it throughout the day and not at once. You don't want to drive those electrolytes down too far, which is going to make things rough for you with cramps.
jack3d4life
Slave to the needle
Ill try it out bro. I started to get e2 sides on my last cycle from test alone till some ifbb dude at the gym recommended I pick up the adex to 1mg then they went away. I still felt great with no joint pain( maybe because I take double double the recommended dose of glucosamine a day) I will definitely be getting a mid cycle blood test as well seeing as it will be the first time ever running t/dbol. Im a little over a month out so I will have no problem putting the supplies together.
Gotcha, a gallon really is my base intake a day. I'm the guy known around campus and when I was in the army around base for having a gallon jug in my hands at all times. People who I don't even know come up to me and ask of I literally always have it haha.
Gotcha, a gallon really is my base intake a day. I'm the guy known around campus and when I was in the army around base for having a gallon jug in my hands at all times. People who I don't even know come up to me and ask of I literally always have it haha.
jack3d4life
Slave to the needle
Now that shit is exciting haha
halfwit
I like turtles.
Yeah, you definitely want to take baby steps with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). It's sooooooo much easier to drop E2 than it is to bring it back up. You feel like utter shit once you do crash it too, which kills gym sessions as you hardly want to get out of bed. Sounds like you're doing some good research, and should absolutely benefit in your cycle.
jack3d4life
Slave to the needle
Yeah, you definitely want to take baby steps with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). It's sooooooo much easier to drop E2 than it is to bring it back up. You feel like utter shit once you do crash it too, which kills gym sessions as you hardly want to get out of bed. Sounds like you're doing some good research, and should absolutely benefit in your cycle.
Seriously sick ass help man. I just want to do this shit right, make gains, get lean and make cash haha
jack3d4life
Slave to the needle
Dude yeah that shit is off the chain expensive. My chick runs it and at only 15mg a day it still runs her 200 bucks a cycle
KingBF
truffle shuffle
my point exactly. tbol all day long
jack3d4life
Slave to the needle
Ive never taken either. I have about a month of it sitting around that someone gave me. They got it from their doctor but didnt like the way it made them feel. Idk haha but I'm saving it for a rainy day.
Austin1
New member
What was provided by a doctor?
jack3d4life
Slave to the needle
KingBF
truffle shuffle
what does anavar compare too
