Enanthate/Deca Cycle Complete???

[besmart]

Hey Bros - Going to do a test/deca cycle and need your feedback. Have previously done a deca only cycle and a enanthate only cycle. Am now combining the two. Here are my stats: 39, 220, 6'4, min bod fat, fit.

Proposed Cycle:

*QV Enanthate 300, 500mg/wk for 12 weeks
*QV Deca 250, 400mg/wk for 10 weeks
*Nolva, 20mg ED (my nips got sensitive with enanthate last cycle)
*Clomid, start week 14 with 300mg first day then 100mg/day for 10 days and 50mg/day for another 10 days

Questions:

1) Do the dosages need to be increased or decreased?
2) Haven't been able to procure HCG. Is it really needed?
3) If HCG is needed, I should do 300iu every 5 days starting with first week of gear, right? Should I try to obtain 10,000iu for this cycle then?

Want to keep this cycle simple yet powerful. Thanks.

 

[jes131]

Well, if you did a deca only cycle then you know what to expect (in regard to your balls particularly) if you go without hcg. I don't know what your previous doses were, but I think you've got a solid cycle here.

 

[khalnayak]

solid cycle there.your dosages are fine.if you have previous experience of testicular shrinkage then id recommend you use the hcg.

 

[SteelSouth]

Solid cycle there, dosages look good and very well planned. You should be ok without HCG. I would run the Nolva at 20mg all the way through post cycle therapy (pct), too. Good luck.

 

[besmart]

Hcg?

Yes, my balls did shrink when doing the deca only cycle...and also when doing the test only cycle. Some of you have said to use HCG, some have said there's no need. Which is it? Would I be foolish to do a deca/enanthate cycle without HCG? Or is the HCG not going to do much for me?

 

[pushnpedl]

bump ttt

 

[khalnayak]

Yes, my balls did shrink when doing the deca only cycle...and also when doing the test only cycle. Some of you have said to use HCG, some have said there's no need. Which is it? Would I be foolish to do a deca/enanthate cycle without HCG? Or is the HCG not going to do much for me?

well,it depends.if u have hcg,then use it.if u dont then i think it wouldnt be a problem not using it although hcg helps recovery.just make sure your post cycle therapy (pct) is good

 

[jarbulldog]

i would run the deca 11 weeks because it takes three weeks to clear and run the test e 12 and also would run test p for 10 days after your last shot of test e so that way after your shot of test p you could start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 days later and all you would need is a 10cc vail of test p which would be cheap

 

[besmart]

Okay, so you are saying skip the hcg with the cycle I described above? And instead do a shot a test p (I assume this is proviron) 10 days after last shot of test e?

 

[JohnnyB]

i would run the deca 11 weeks because it takes three weeks to clear and run the test e 12 and also would run test p for 10 days after your last shot of test e so that way after your shot of test p you could start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 days later and all you would need is a 10cc vail of test p which would be cheap

I'm going to add to this, run the deca 12 weeks the enan 13. Yes get some HCG, with a 19-nor in the mix, I think it's a must and your age is a factor as well, so deffinitly get some. Do 300iu every 3 day, if you want to go 5 days try 500iu, but be ready to adjust that if you get shrinkage. Start HCG from day one and if you have problem with estrogen, use nolva during post cycle therapy (pct).

JohnnyB

 

[khalnayak]

Okay, so you are saying skip the hcg with the cycle I described above? And instead do a shot a test p (I assume this is proviron) 10 days after last shot of test e?

i think by saying test p he meant test propionate

 

[besmart]

What's the best site to purchase hcg from? What specifically should I order? Thx Bros.

 

[Sileo]

Umm..I doubt your going to get someone posting a site for HCG on here bro. You may want to talk to the person you bought the rest of the stuff from..I am sure they can help you out with HCG also.

 

[jarbulldog]

hcg is something that you can not get from research companies. the reason i say run test p is because of having down waiting for the long acting esters to clear the system why not run some fast acting and by the time the long acting have run through your system you can stop the prop because it only take 3 days to clear before you can pct. just my 2 cents

 

[jarbulldog]

yes when i say test p i mean propinate

 

[besmart]

Somewhere I read that HCG only lasts for a month or so when mixed. Rather than taking the time to look up, does anyone know what the fridge life is?

If taking test for 12 weeks then HCG will need to run 12+ weeks...therfore is it better to go with 4 2500iu bottles or 2 5000ui bottles since 1 10000iu bottle with go bad before the end of 12 weeks?