EQ as good as Deca for joints?

[RamJam]

Hello brothers,

I have avoided using deca because of the fabled "deca dick", but Im noticing my joints complaining more now after lifting heavy. I did a cycle of 125 mgs test and 250 mgs eq per wk per the article here on the boards about EQ rebounding your collagen synthesis--But reading posts most of the info for the pro deca side of the house is centered around bulking. So, my question is--Does deca's impact on soothing joints outweigh the dreaded "deca dick ", and is it that much more effective for joints than EQ?

 

[frank.tb]

Cialis can help you with that.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

EQ is more superior for Collagen synthesis than Nandrolone. But it will take a bit longer to take effect, but when it does, you will feel great.

 

[southsidejunckie]

i dont think one is better then the other for joints. Stay with EQ.

 

[frank.tb]

But EQ can give you wicked bad blood pressure...
Also Deca is superior.in collagen synthesis AND joint lubrication.

 

[imdennis]

only way you get deca dick is from

-to high prolactin
- deca higher then test
- too high estrogen

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...al-muscle-collagen-synthesis-certain-aas.html


EQ FTW!

 

[RamJam]

Old school,

Yes man, i have read that post about increase skeletal muscle/collagen synthesis...I did the cylce of 125 mgs test and 250 mgs eq per week..

The thing is, is that when you look up any info on EQ, it doesn't seem to mention or emphasize soothing joints...whereas with Deca, its one of the top things mentioned. I'm just wondering if the risks are greater than the rewards with Deca, or if the EQ was superior all along.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Honestly through my trial and error, I have 2 Herniated disks, and degenerative disk disease. I used to run NPP or Deca non stop with all my cycles to help with the relief and repair. Once I started EQ at about 500-600mg/wk after the 4th week I noticed so much more. Better energy, Mood, Stamina, Appetite, and above all a lot of my pain was minimized. In comparison to Nandrolone, I noticed the difference, and I no longer needed to watch progesterone. Win/Win for me.

 

[Austinite]

That's not how deca eases joints, not sure how it came to be compared to EQ.

 

[frank.tb]

Prami and Cialis along with deca and you.shouldn't have to worry about deca dick...some.on this forum run deca year round at a low dose...there's probably a reason why they don't run eq year round.
Plus if EQ is so amazing then don't you think powerlifters who put so much stress on their tendons and joints would use it more than EQ. Deca seems to be.a favorite among powerlifters.

 

[Austinite]

Prami and Cialis along with deca and you.shouldn't have to worry about deca dick...some.on this forum run deca year round at a low dose...there's probably a reason why they don't run eq year round.
Plus if EQ is so amazing then don't you think powerlifters who put so much stress on their tendons and joints would use it more than EQ. Deca seems to be.a favorite among powerlifters.

agree.

 

[RamJam]

This is what I mean---the long, seemingly well researched and thought out article ("Increase collagen synthesis") gives the nod to EQ, yet there is such recognition given to Deca by so many--it just makes you wonder. So, Austinite and frank--I usually dont run anything over 350 mgs...250 is my standard usual for 10-12 weeks...Ive been curious about the deca for a while...So if i run at 250mgs a week for 10 weeks along with 250 mgs test per week you think i should be ok with sides (no deca dick) and it will have a greater effect on joints?

 

[frank.tb]

Y only 250?
And prami and Cialis is the best way to.combat deca dick

 

[SolomonGrundy]

Zero for joints, thats a result of fluid between the joint space

 

[frank.tb]

And collagen synthesis doesn't necessarily mean lubricated joints brother...means stronger healthier tendons. To my belief anyway.

 

[Austinite]

Yes. And there is no such thing as "Lubricated Joints", joints will always have synovial fluid (you're in serious trouble if you don't produce it), the difference is the viscosity where certain steroids would change the molecular weight of hyaluronic acid in synovial joints. Heavier hyaluronic acid = thicker synovial fluid = comfortably gliding joints.

 

[frank.tb]

Yes. And there is no such thing as "Lubricated Joints", joints will always have synovial fluid (you're in serious trouble if you don't produce it), the difference is the viscosity where certain steroids would change the molecular weight of hyaluronic acid in synovial joints. Heavier hyaluronic acid = thicker synovial fluid = comfortably gliding joints.

So Winstrol (winny) basically thins the fluid resulting in the "dry" joints?

 

[Austinite]

So Winstrol (winny) basically thins the fluid resulting in the "dry" joints?

Correct. Just like a cylinder in a car, if it's too thin, you get friction (that's the uncomfortable tightness we feel). Deca does the opposite by increasing the molecular weight. You can be at 3% BF and have comfortable joints.

 

[frank.tb]

Well RamJam does this answer all your questions? Lol