Equipoise and your experience

It seems some people respomnd to much less or weaker gear than others. This makes me think that their training is playing a major role in how much they are getting out of the gear. .
 
roccodart440 said:
You also hear alot of people knock Anavar (var) . I think I proved that wrong. I love Anavar (var) . When your on test and add it into the mix you get noticably tigheter looking and you get stronger. The latter of the two was very evident.


Proved what ??? LMFAO !!

You never even ran testosterone or ana Anavar (var) by themselves, so how would you ever know what you're experiencing was solely from the Anavar (var) ??
 
StoneColdNTO said:
Proved what ??? LMFAO !!

You never even ran testosterone or ana Anavar (var) by themselves, so how would you ever know what you're experiencing was solely from the Anavar (var) ??


Ran 7 weeks of straight test and then added Anavar (var) . I noticed a significant difference. Laugh if you'd like but when I benched 600 at my last meet all those guys who I hear say ana Anavar (var) is a girls drug and 500mg test is a baby dose had to eat their words. :flylicker
 
well may I still remind you that 600 lbs shirted at 268 lbs is not unbelievable , especially that u only bench 425 without it and StoneCOLD is right , what did you prove did you make a scientific experiment On anabolism and catabolism during and prior to anavar use and did you measured any data that could help you prove yourself . the guys at your meet were right Anavar is not the best choice to get stronger its just pretty safe , try Cheque drops or methyl test lets see if any of these will compare to ur Anavar . Dont mean to be Rude but you cant really prove anythin if you havent tried and tested everythin and have some data to compare .
 
SupermanQC said:
well may I still remind you that 600 lbs shirted at 268 lbs is not unbelievable , especially that u only bench 425 without it and StoneCOLD is right , what did you prove did you make a scientific experiment On anabolism and catabolism during and prior to ana Anavar (var) use and did you measured any data that could help you prove yourself . the guys at your meet were right Ana Anavar (var) is not the best choice to get stronger its just pretty safe , try Cheque drops or methyl test lets see if any of these will compare to ur Ana Anavar (var) . Dont mean to be Rude but you cant really prove anythin if you havent tried and tested everythin and have some data to compare .

My data is in my cycle log.

600@268 isn't impressive. 425 raw isn't? LOL. How many guys on this board can do that?

I wanted safe. I wasn't loking for cheque drops etc.

And the simple fact that when I was on test alone and added Anavar (var) in my strength shot up and I had a more hard look.

If you don't think 600@ 268 while on was impressive. THen check out my meet results for my augaust meet where I will hit 655 clean.
 
ok while all these dick-measuring comments are interesting and all, no one has really answered my question yet...

as I have noticed, not a lot of people think very highly of Equipoise, especially doing it alone. though regardless of your personal opinion, I am pretty certain that I will be starting a mild/light cycle next week.

I am choosing EQ because I do not want to do anything heavy at all. I want a very mild steriod that will simply help me to get a little bigger over the course of the 10 week cycle; while also getting stronger. I want the minimal amount of side-effects and wish to maintain as much size and strength as possible after completing the cylce. my goals are to only put on some very solid muscle... nothing sloppy or water-filled.

for the most part, I am very satisfied with my body, especially my ass and legs, but would just like to get my chest and the rest of my upper body slightly bigger. I only plan on doing one cycle ever. most of all, I wish to get some strong results that seem reasonable enough that people wouldn't really question if I were juicing. and from my understanding, while using EQ alone, you can expect some slow steady gains, therefore not making it overly apparent that you're using anything beyond over the counter supplements.

so if anyone can offer me any advice or concerns, and what I can expect to experience while on it, I would greatly appreciate it. I know some will probably say to just put in the time and gulp down the protein and I can achieve my desired results naturally... but trust me, I have tried that! this is a one time thing for me. I hope to get the results and if I don't then at least I know I tried.
 
Ok, let me bottom line it for you then. Will eq alone work for the goals you want to achieve? If diet and training are in check....yes!
 
thanks... but any info on what kind of side-effects I can expect? obviously I am new to this, though I have been doing an abundance of homework on the topic... even so, I don't think any articles can compare to actual experiences and testimonies. so what can I expect? acne? balls shrinking? hair loss? rage? anything else?
 
this is something you have to find out on your own . iv run it 3 times with test @ the same dose, same brand gear and batch and each time it affected me differently . 1st time awsome.2nd time awsome +acne 3rd time acne+no sex drive . btw my dose was test e 300, eq@600 wkly. for post cycle therapy (pct) novla , and to answer you question about sides YES you could have it happen or maybe not
 
everyone will respond to different gear differently, some gear works for others better then others.

I have done eq @ 900mg weekly stacked with test e. I personally really did not see the increased app like most talk about and I did get more vascular but I was not impressed and would not run it again. I personally prefer deca but it is just a persoanal preference
 
well I plan on taking a very very low dose... something like 1cc @ 300mg/week. Do you think that will even be enough? again, I'm not trying to blow up here; just a nice steady gain of 5-15 lbs of very solid muscle over the course of the cylce.
 
are you a break dancer bboy? if you are i think you should take Winstrol (winny) to help with that. hahah

:bash:

just joking bro 300mg a week with a good diet should help you with what your shooting for
 
400 is the lowest i'd go and you gain will be more like 5-7 .you can get steady 5-15 out of test@250 wkly. which is what you should be doing you 1st time anyway.peace
 
well 400mg week would be a minimum If you ask me too . since its less strong then Test and you would approximatively need 300mg of Test to replace your own testosterone production . 400 Mg of Eq should be a nice dosage and maybe you would like to kick some Winstrol (winny) for the first 3 weeks Equipoise is not really a fast acting esterified steroid and 10 weeks should be a good length
 
I have run EQ about 3 times and at least for me it took about 6 + weeks for it to kick in I would say EQ needs to be run about 18 weeks for te true effect to be seen. Yes this is a long time so the way to do this is the start the cycles with EQ only and onthe first two weeks double dose as to get in in the system quicker. if you are doing 600mg a week for 18 weeks you would do 1200mg the first wk and 1200mg the second this is alot and is probably only for the vet or if you compete. I would then start running Test and dbol on the third week. I have found that the sides if any from the EQ (i.e. EQ dick like Deca dick) have not had time to kick in. By adding the Test and Dbol at this time will create a nice combo effect. So the EQ is run for 18 weeks and the test is run for 15 wks and the dol for 3 weeks
 
I have been off the gear since early 2003 and use to read and post on EF since like 99. Its crazy, but a lot of the views about certain substances have really changed. A few years back, people were not shitting on eq as much. Personally I have use lots of different brands and got best results on Eq at 100mg/ml dose. At the time Ttokkyo had 200mg and this was all the rave. Like I said Fort Dodge, spectro, ttokyo were good back then. However, I am reading a lot as I am getting back into the game and it seems like people are not liking eq that much. I just got some BD eq and will give it a run. Not sure if the eq is not as good as it was back then, but my results in the past were great at like 600 or even 400 per week. Longevity seems to be the key with eq as stated many times. I hope this BD eq is as good as the old stuff. Is it possible that people are getting mostly BD or similar eq and it is giving them poor results? I have read a lot on this board and ef in the last few weeks and people are really shitting on it saying that it is underated and giving them uncontrollable shedding. This is new news to me.
 
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