few upper body pics, week 9

[Mrrippedzilla]

Get yourself down to 6% and then eat chicken and rice for two weeks then eat chicken and cheese puffs for two weeks keeping cals the same.
Look in the mirror and then tell me IIFMM is still relevant.

You do know water retention effects how you look even further when your in those % levels right? That would be the only reason for the different look in the mirror.
I have my prep starting in a few weeks so I'll take you up on that offer once I'm at 7% and we'll see

 

[Matt0071]

broccoli
lettuce
cauliflower
zucchini
tomatoes
asparagus
green beans
squash
cucumber
spinach

Thanks

 

[Matt0071]

How long do u stick to that diet banzi, probs does wonders in a few months time eh

 

[banzi]

You do know water retention effects how you look even further when your in those % levels right? That would be the only reason for the different look in the mirror.
I have my prep starting in a few weeks so I'll take you up on that offer once I'm at 7% and we'll see

And thats exactly why IIFMM is irrelevant to people who want to look good.
Just because the calorific value of something fits doesn't mean you can eat it and still look good.
I often wonder why the macro brigade seldom talk about micros.

We can talk again when you are at 7% good luck with it, by the way, where are you now and how long do you plan to take to get to 7%?

 

[snowpatrol123]

How long do u stick to that diet banzi, probs does wonders in a few months time eh

It would. And it would drive me insane in a few days. The pictures don't lie though, it clearly works - that's one of the reasons I think I'll ever be interested in competing. I have more fun around 10% BF and gaining muscle rather than shaving fat down to single digits.

 

[banzi]

How long do u stick to that diet banzi, probs does wonders in a few months time eh

Its really a quick fix method and very difficult to stick to for any longer than a month.
Once you get to single figures you can have re-feed days once a week and add in some carbs, you can do it before single figures but it can hinder you at that level.

 

[Matt0071]

Was thinking in the same lines come april, dieting down
Can u add tuna jn the resume 2, chicken and tuna throuhout the day, a couple tsp of natty pb per meal and fibrous carbs will perserve muscle as well?

 

[DreDay187]

And thats exactly why IIFMM is irrelevant to people who want to look good.
Just because the calorific value of something fits doesn't mean you can eat it and still look good.
I often wonder why the macro brigade seldom talk about micros.

We can talk again when you are at 7% good luck with it, by the way, where are you now and how long do you plan to take to get to 7%?

The water retention of the IIFYM diet would go sect after a day or two. Not really a significant point.

 

[banzi]

It would. And it would drive me insane in a few days. The pictures don't lie though, it clearly works - that's one of the reasons I think I'll ever be interested in competing. I have more fun around 10% BF and gaining muscle rather than shaving fat down to single digits.

Try it for a week, you will learn a lot about how your body reacts to carbs and proteins in such a short time.

 

[snowpatrol123]

Try it for a week, you will learn a lot about how your body reacts to carbs and proteins in such a short time.

I might in the spring. Shorts don't come out until mid-June around here so there's no rush at this point lol

 

[banzi]

Was thinking in the same lines come april, dieting down
Can u add tuna jn the resume 2, chicken and tuna throuhout the day, a couple tsp of natty pb per meal and fibrous carbs will perserve muscle as well?

Any lean low fat protein sources are fine.
The fibrous carbs are to help you shit.
The peanut butter is your fat source.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

And thats exactly why IIFMM is irrelevant to people who want to look good.
Just because the calorific value of something fits doesn't mean you can eat it and still look good.
I often wonder why the macro brigade seldom talk about micros.

We can talk again when you are at 7% good luck with it, by the way, where are you now and how long do you plan to take to get to 7%?

I take care of the water by reducing carbs & correctly planned refeeds, and I always take a basic multivit to cover my micros

I'm nursing an injury at the moment (main reason I'm back on here after a long break) maintaining at 14%bf (I still measure myself weekly - very OCD on that lol).
I will start my cut in March, shouldn't take me longer than 10 weeks to hit 7 based on the last 2 times, but I'll keep you updated closer to the date.

I'm actually interested in experimenting at 5-7%bf maintenance for the year, but the previous issues with test make me doubt if its possible naturally, but we will see...

 

[banzi]

I take care of the water by reducing carbs & correctly planned refeeds, and I always take a basic multivit to cover my micros

I'm nursing an injury at the moment (main reason I'm back on here after a long break) maintaining at 14%bf (I still measure myself weekly - very OCD on that lol).
I will start my cut in March, shouldn't take me longer than 10 weeks to hit 7 based on the last 2 times, but I'll keep you updated closer to the date.

I'm actually interested in experimenting at 5-7%bf maintenance for the year, but the previous issues with test make me doubt if its possible naturally, but we will see...

Sounds like a plan, good luck mate, look forward to some progress pics

 

[Rida5d]

Thanks

Matt.. You are changing to a better person , who is willing to listen and learn..
It's great that you are open minded for new ideas and schools.
I'm also glad that your thread had turned from a flaming-thread to an educational one..
Hope u are doing well with ur progress.

 

[Matt0071]

Matt.. You are changing to a better person , who is willing to listen and learn..
It's great that you are open minded for new ideas and schools.
I'm also glad that your thread had turned from a flaming-thread to an educational one..
Hope u are doing well with ur progress.

Thanks man
Sweet avi pic bro, love wolfs
Had to find some new spots to pin, starting to build up excess scsr tissue its like goig through leather now lol, pined the pecs yesterday, day before and never again did the biceps and sucked lol

 

[banzi]

Matt.. You are changing to a better person , who is willing to listen and learn..
It's great that you are open minded for new ideas and schools.
I'm also glad that your thread had turned from a flaming-thread to an educational one..
Hope u are doing well with ur progress.

X2
guy is just eager to improve, its just consistency Matt, I think you were just not giving things a chance before jumping into something else.

 

[Matt0071]

I agree banzI
Heres my question
Now I love red meat, I can eat chicken, tuna ect ect, I prefer tuna over chicken tho
My question is if u eat lean ground beef for 3 meals out of the 6 in my diet plan will u begin to put on more excess bf then i intended too
Heres my current diet

Was thinking of droppjng the 6oz chicken and adding another 150g lean ground beef with 85g pasta
Also dropping the natty pb and using 1 tsp of coconut oil per meal and upping my cals to 4000-4500 from 3600, what do u guys think sitting around 220 today

Meal one

1 cup oatmeal, 1 scoop iso pro, 1 cup egg whites, 1 tsp natty pb

Meal 2

6oz chicken breast, 90g brown rice, 1 tsp natty pb

Meal3 ( same as 1) pre workout)

Meal 4

150g lean ground beef, 85g pasta (post workout)

Meal 5

6oz steak, 12oz yam

Meal 6

Same as meal 1

Cals 3600, p 330, c 360, f 90

 

[Matt0071]

As for he red meat like lean ground beef I love making homemade burgers with a 1/4 cup of egg whites with some cruched up crackers as well will post the macro's on the lean ground beef I buy, thanks

 

[Matt0071]

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