First Cycle Ever Log- Test E/Dbol

First of all, i am very impressed by the way some people help other , even with great advices.
And second, Imaunatural?!!! If u are 20 years old , U maybe listen to some well known folks from the board.Let me tell U my story.I was 19 years old when decided to start a cycle (real Karachi sustanon 500 mg/w - 8 log weeks).I was insane about my results.Second cycle Sust + D-bol , also good result.I was 21 at that moment.Also i mention the bad PCT that i useed at that point.And my 3 cycle SUSt+ Deca, at 24 -25 years old.Not to mention that deca created me a lot of problem.As some1 mentioned, a lot of people dont disscus abot theyr dick problem (deca or tren dick problems).After my third cycle , i was like a living dead, i was tired always, no stamina, emotionlly crap, and more then 3 years problem with my private life.I managed to disscus with a doctor and told him about my real and big problems and about AAS.That was the moment when i was done some bloodwork.The result : 249 test.And my cycle was 3 yeras before.So, think about it, you are tooooooooo young to touch AAS.And not to mention that from my last deca cycle (7 years ago, i swear i`m not 100% recovered).
Be carefull my friend, You're Only Young Once, and U cold mees up with your hormones.

Sorry for my english
 
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First of all, i am very impressed by the way some people help other , even with great advices.
And second, Imaunatural?!!! If u are 20 years old , U maybe listen to some well known folks from the board.Let me tell U my story.I was 19 years old when decided to start a cycle (real Karachi sustanon 500 mg/w - 8 log weeks).I was insane about my results.Second cycle Sust + D-bol , also good result.I was 21 at that moment.Also i mention the bad PCT that i useed at that point.And my 3 cycle SUSt+ Deca, at 24 -25 years old.Not to mention that deca created me a lot of problem.As some1 mentioned, a lot of people dont disscus abot theyr dick problem (deca or tren dick problems).After my third cycle , i was like a living dead, i was tired always, no stamina, emotionlly crap, and more then 3 years problem with my private life.I managed to disscus with a doctor and told him about my real and big problems and about AAS.That was the moment when i was done some bloodwork.The result : 249 test.And my cycle was 3 yeras before.So, think about it, you are tooooooooo young to touch AAS.And not to mention that from my last deca cycle (7 years ago, i swear i`m not 100% recovered).
Be carefull my friend, You're Only Young Once, and U cold mees up with your hormones.

Sorry for my english

Sorry to hear about ll of that man. But I have already started and im not stopping. I appreciate everyone's advice but when it comes down to it it is my decision and if it does mess me up then it will be my fault and I will have to deal with it. I don't plan on adding in a ton of compounds honestly I think I could just stick with Test and maybe add an oral here and there. I'm not going to be running insane amounts of various compounds I will always get pre,mid,and post cycle blood work and I will not start another cycle until my Test is fully recovered.

So if my test doesn't recover to where it was before or at least close then I wont run another cycle. If it gets so low that I become HG then I will goto a doctor,I wouldn't mind being on TRT I honestly don't really want kids anyway and if I ever did I could always just adopt and help save a child.

Also no disrespect but you started with Sustanon which is pretty powerful and probably not for beginners and as you stated you had a bad PCT and you said that Deca gave you a lot of problems then you should have discontinued use. You also said that you had great gains with just Sustanon so why did you decide to keep adding new compunds each cycle if you were seeing good results? If it isn't broke don't fix it.

Also did you get bloodwork regularly on all of these cycles? I don't believe you did get because you mentioned problems with your dick,where there is a problem there is always a cause and if you had bloodwork you could possibly have determined the cause and stopped before it got too out of hand.

I mean no disrespect but people say running AAS is bad for you at a young age,if its bad at a young age then honestly its probably not a good idea at all no matter the age. Once your growth plates have closed up and you are no longer growing I don't see a problem with beginning to use AAS if that is something you are willing to do and accept the possible consequences.
 
Sorry to hear about ll of that man. But I have already started and im not stopping. I appreciate everyone's advice but when it comes down to it it is my decision and if it does mess me up then it will be my fault and I will have to deal with it. I don't plan on adding in a ton of compounds honestly I think I could just stick with Test and maybe add an oral here and there. I'm not going to be running insane amounts of various compounds I will always get pre,mid,and post cycle blood work and I will not start another cycle until my Test is fully recovered.

So if my test doesn't recover to where it was before or at least close then I wont run another cycle. If it gets so low that I become HG then I will goto a doctor,I wouldn't mind being on TRT I honestly don't really want kids anyway and if I ever did I could always just adopt and help save a child.

Also no disrespect but you started with Sustanon which is pretty powerful and probably not for beginners and as you stated you had a bad PCT and you said that Deca gave you a lot of problems then you should have discontinued use. You also said that you had great gains with just Sustanon so why did you decide to keep adding new compunds each cycle if you were seeing good results? If it isn't broke don't fix it.

Also did you get bloodwork regularly on all of these cycles? I don't believe you did get because you mentioned problems with your dick,where there is a problem there is always a cause and if you had bloodwork you could possibly have determined the cause and stopped before it got too out of hand.

I mean no disrespect but people say running AAS is bad for you at a young age,if its bad at a young age then honestly its probably not a good idea at all no matter the age. Once your growth plates have closed up and you are no longer growing I don't see a problem with beginning to use AAS if that is something you are willing to do and accept the possible consequences.
for the first bolded point...no doctor will give you trt at your age so it would have to be self medication which is not recommended especially when you dont have a consistent supplier and a number of backups. this also limits traveling because you cant bring non script test with you anywhere. Also, everyone in their early 20's says they dont want kids. I'm 25 and i still say that, but you know what? im willing to bet at some point you will want kids. Its part of being a man. everyone wants a legacy to leave behind and not some cambodian that you picked up at an orphanage. (no disrespect to adoption).

second bolded point. Sustanon is just a blend of different test esters, no stronger than any form of test and can certainly be used in a beginner cycle.
 
for the first bolded point...no doctor will give you trt at your age so it would have to be self medication which is not recommended especially when you dont have a consistent supplier and a number of backups. this also limits traveling because you cant bring non script test with you anywhere. Also, everyone in their early 20's says they dont want kids. I'm 25 and i still say that, but you know what? im willing to bet at some point you will want kids. Its part of being a man. everyone wants a legacy to leave behind and not some cambodian that you picked up at an orphanage. (no disrespect to adoption).

second bolded point. Sustanon is just a blend of different test esters, no stronger than any form of test and can certainly be used in a beginner cycle.

Laughing my ass off at the bolded statement. lol

But all I am saying is that I am doing everything I can to make sure I run my cycles as safely as possible. I'm not an idiot like some people who just buy stuff from their buddies with no label and inject whatever their friend or supplier tells them too.

Also I could just take Clomid for as long as I need to keep my test levels elevated,clomid alone has been used for some TRT. It works better than gels in most cases but not as good as injections obviously.
 
be carefull and take a look at your diet, vit`s (higher dose of B6 for side effects), omega, liver support, drink a lot of water, L-Carnitine (studies show that l-carnitine tartrate increase significantly androgen receptors in subjects, and this is the reason why steroid cycles are more productive), mesure your BP 2 times/w, look up at your hair (MP baldness).and be positive :).Of course, keep posting your experience.Good luck !
 
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Update: Day 29

Sorry I havent updated in a few days. My girlfriend of 3 years decided to goto a party and fuck some random 22 year old guy she just met because we were in an argument. I have never been so hurt in my life, I was her first and the only guy she has ever been with and i would have never expected this. She is 17 and im 20 and she got shit faced drunk and threw herself at this 22yo guy. I didnt know until the next day when I bought her breakfast and picke dher up then we cam back to my place and I had to force it out of her before she told me. I cut things off with her and I feel disugusted thinking about her but I still love her, I just cant get the images out of my head. She was so sore she couldnt walk right and had bruises and hickies on her ass and tits. This shit sucks!

But Im not giving up on the gym i had a great workout today doing chest and triceps. The swelling on my right arm has reduced alot and it doesnt hurt and isnt red but there is still a slight hard bump.

I will be showering in a minute then injecting my right glute,I was contemplating quads but im a pussy.

Fuck women,just get money and lift. I will never trust another woman in my life.
 
it only gets worse man...women these days are becoming monsters. there are a few good one's left, dont settle till you find one. you really have to assert your dominance around women these days or else theyll stomp all over you. go out and fuck every girl you can. you're free. life starts now.
 
it only gets worse man...women these days are becoming monsters. there are a few good one's left, dont settle till you find one. you really have to assert your dominance around women these days or else theyll stomp all over you. go out and fuck every girl you can. you're free. life starts now.

Thanks man. I just would have would have never expected it,and sitting here at this stupid ass desk all day isn't helping things. I want to rip the motherfuckers head off! And the though of her disgusts me now,I haven't had my heart broken like this in a long time and I forgot how bad it sucks. I am taking AAS to help better my body and boost my confidence even more im usually pretty confident but now its completely gone. And so is my appetite at the moment which sucks also!

But as for my cycle I think I will have better workouts now because all I could think about yesterday was bashing that motherfuckers head in and I had an amazing workout! I will be hitting back later today. I don't think the test has started working yet. IM on day 30 today but I believe that bad pin form last Monday may have set me back a little. I did my right glute last night and everything is fine,no PIP or soreness at all today.
 
the test should be pretty close to peak levels at this point. some people dont really get a noticeable "kick" from the test because it comes on so gradual you don't realize how good you felt till you're off. get bloods this week or next to make sure it's kicked in and check you e2 and everything.
 
i remember my first cycle test cyp 500mg, i was like 6 weeks in and i was like wtf my gear is bunk because i felt nothing from it. meanwhile i was walking around like a water balloon with high blood pressure and e2 through the roof. made great gains, but never felt that superman feeling you hear about or uncontrollable libido. granted, i let my e2 skyrocket because i didnt use an AI, but let the gains do the talking because you dont always feel the test as much as you think.

and of course get blood work
 
the test should be pretty close to peak levels at this point. some people dont really get a noticeable "kick" from the test because it comes on so gradual you don't realize how good you felt till you're off. get bloods this week or next to make sure it's kicked in and check you e2 and everything.

I will have to get bloods next week if I can, I missed work yesterday because I didn't want to get out of bed I tried to get shit done and stay busy yesterday. I have been feeling pretty good lately and my workouts are pretty awesome. But now im depressed as fuck so I'm unsure,but I felt great in the gym yesterday. Oh well I don't care if ti kicks on or not honestly I don't care if its legit,i don't care if i recover,I don't care if i die from it.
 
Update: Day 31

The Test is starting to work for sure. I feel pretty good other than my eyes are a little red and dry or something. I had a great back workout last night.

My weight is up from 172 to 184.8., I haven't put on much fat if any at all I feel and look a little leaner.

My blood pressure is high however 140/82. For me this is a little high im usually <120 on top and <70 on the bottom. I will be hitting my Arms later today.

Oh and just a reminder never trust girls they are evil.
 
a rise in bp is expected, but keep an eye on it and test once or twice a week. you could probably get it down a bit if your e2 is high. what is your adex dose atm?
 
a rise in bp is expected, but keep an eye on it and test once or twice a week. you could probably get it down a bit if your e2 is high. what is your adex dose atm?

I knew my BP would go up it actually makes me happy it shows that my test is at-least not bunk,I cant wait to get bloods ASAP. My Adex is .5mg EOD. So i took .5mg Monday and .5 this morning and again on Friday etc.

Im also taking 20mg Nolva Everyday. After this cycle im going to try to reduce my gyno down with some Tamox or Ralox im not sure yet. It could just be a little but of fat behind the nipple though so I might just wait until next summer when I lean out before I make a decision.
 
im sure more are following, just not giving input. post up some pics man make it interesting

I might. I took some a few weeks ago but the update for IOS8 on my phone messed up and deleted all of y pictures so ill have to take new ones. Plus my diet hasn't been great I haven't been eating very bad I just haven't been eating enough really.
 
I might. I took some a few weeks ago but the update for IOS8 on my phone messed up and deleted all of y pictures so ill have to take new ones. Plus my diet hasn't been great I haven't been eating very bad I just haven't been eating enough really.

blah blah blah excuses. pics man. how else r we gonna know how well your cycle went? seems like you are afraid of criticism.
 
ImAuNatural I think its cool what you are doing by keeping a steady log going . good even to look back on on revious cycles to see where certain things happened so u know what to expect and how things happened another time . But keep it up because ive seen many many people start a thread and say they would keep posting it and updating and it never happened . so good luck and enjoy it . keep posting
 
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