First cycle guidance

[malin819]

I'm 23 years old...sitting at about 200 pounds with 14-15% body fat. I have 2 prohormone cycles under my belt and I'm taking the plunge with the real. I had gyno after a superdrol/epistane cycle but I have managed to reduce it with letrozole. I choosed aromasin since it doesnt create an estrogen rebound after discontinuing the use. Dbol can really have on existing gyno and its the same story with Test E. That's why I decided to run a low dose of nolvadex just in case. Better be safe then sorry.

here we go

1-4: Dianabol 50mg
1-15: Test E 500ml (2 injections per weeks)
1-17: HCG 500ui (2 injections per weeks)
1-17: Nolvadex 10mg/ed
1-17: Aromasin 12.5mg/ed

18-22: Nolvadex 50/50/25/25
18-22: Clomid 100/100/50/50

 

[OX]

This is actually a well laid out first cycle. I wouldn't take the nolva. You shouldn't need it. Aromasin will do the job. Make sure you get your baseline blood work done. Remember that in order to titrate your Aromasin dosage properly you will need blood work done.

The one thing i would change is your hcg. The day after your last shot start injecting your hcg ed at 500iu for ten days then 4 days later start your serms.


Props on a well laid out cycle brotha!

 

[malin819]

I'll keep the nolva just in case I start to see any issues. I've also read about blasting the HCG 2 weeks before the start of post cycle therapy (pct). I understand that it helps kickstart the natural test production and will make post cycle therapy (pct) easier. The faster the natural test is restored, the less gains made during cycle will be lost.

Wich brings me to another dilemma. I heard HCG can be injected either subQ or IM. I already have my insuling needles but if I can shoot Test E and HCG in the same barrel, I'd like that better.

 

[OX]

I'll keep the nolva just in case I start to see any issues. I've also read about blasting the HCG 2 weeks before the start of post cycle therapy (pct). I understand that it helps kickstart the natural test production and will make post cycle therapy (pct) easier. The faster the natural test is restored, the less gains made during cycle will be lost.

Wich brings me to another dilemma. I heard HCG can be injected either subQ or IM. I already have my insuling needles but if I can shoot Test E and HCG in the same barrel, I'd like that better.

Your correct. And yes you absolutely can inject them in the same barrel. Draw up your hcg last as it will float on top of the test. It is easier using a slin pin subq though.

 

[malin819]

Well I gained 10 pounds so far but I had to drop the Dbol early since I developped a lump on my left nipple. I took nolvadex at 40mg/ED and dropped it to 20mg/ED. I also switched my Anti E with letrozole. All the pain is gone and the lump is starting to shrink.

I also decided to inject Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) SubQ and its painless. So far I injected my Test E into quads, glutes, delts, pects. My sking is oily and I want to bang everygirl I see...I'm also always sweating and the night sweats are bearable.

I'll uptate again later on but so far so good.

I'm running Veyron Pharma Test E and Centrino Labs Test E...

 

[R1rider]

good for you bro, you are doing it right. whats you diet like?

 

[malin819]

Fats 133.8
Carbs 369
Protein 404

 

[Four1Thr33]

That my friend is alot of cals lol. 4,296.2
15% bf makes u 170lbm
So
That takes your BMR to 1929 cal

Once u have you bmr, u need to calculate your TDEE, this is simply done with some multiplication...

you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

 

[malin819]

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Thanks but 3J's made my diet and he took everything in consideration. So far, I trust him.

 

[weights=life]

bro you should run aromasin through post cycle therapy (pct). when your getting your natural test back it will begin to aromatise and you will need to prevent that from happening as much and as safe as possible.

 

[Four1Thr33]

i trust 3j as well... was just calc your totals... looked high to me.... your 1300 cals over your TDEE and the fat grams appeared very high... but i am no nutritionist i just used the info i received off this board to make my statments

 

[malin819]

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bro you should run aromasin through post cycle therapy (pct). when your getting your natural test back it will begin to aromatise and you will need to prevent that from happening as much and as safe as possible.

No worries since I have 500 12.5mg tabs :d

 

[nonameman]

Sounds like it's going great.

How much have you been gaining per week?

Also with the dbol were you taking aromasin, if so at what dose?

I brought a bodybugg, a bodybuilders best friend.. tells me the exact amount of calories I've burnt in a 24hr window each day and damn it's accurate.

 

[malin819]

My Dbol was bunk (Veyron Pharma) Next time I'll find a more reputable lab. Its hard to clearly say how much weight I'm gaining because I'm burning and getting leaner.