FIRST Cycle -- Need help!!

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FIRST Cycle -- Need help!! PIC

I've been lifting the past year and a half or so and to be honest I really haven't seen many gains at all. I've been taking many different supplements and have still really seen very minimal strength gains. Even used a personal trainer for a few months with no success. Also been eating very healthy, and a ton of food since I'm naturally always hungry.

6' 2.5"
154 lbs
Age 20

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(not sure why this isn't working^^)

My entire family is very skinny with a ridiculously fast metabolism..at one point I ate 4000+ calories/day for an entire month and gained no weight. I'm not a complete twig..I've got a 6 pack..and "toned" but by no means huge as far as muscles everywhere else.

Looking to start some gear as this seems to be the only option now. My friend's been using for the past year and a half or so and is big as **** now. This is what he suggested I buy..let me know what you think.

12 week cycle:
- 2 vials test e (20ml total)
- 1 vial deca (10ml)
- Clomid and Nolvadex for PCT

All feedback is appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Bro u dont need steroids u need food were the same height and i got a hundred pounds on you. Build a foundation before u build a house (in the words of zeek) but seriously u can gain on just food look into nutrion section. 3j is the best.
 
u are 6'2" and only 152lbs?

then forget about roids...really you can gain alot of mass without them for now...SERIOUSLY!!!!

i know you have it in your head that you need roids and you not gonna listen to nobody here so if you wanna do it as your first cycle.....then forget about the DECA for now

just do 500mg/week of Test E or C and you'll be amazed with the results

but remember diet make you loose or gain weight not roids

SO IF YOU CURRENTLY ARE NOT GAINING WEIGHT ON YOUR DIET HOW DO YOU SPECT TO GAIN WEIGHT ON ROIDS?

if you dont change the way you eat then you not gonna gain shit

hey but is your money and your body so do whatever you want
 
I am new to this game and need some major help I wanna do a ten week of tren ace and anavar but please I dont no how much to start with or when or if to increase or decrease dose I need to know the whole nine form day one through the end of my post cycle please help
 
First off boattach, go make your own thread, get off of mine please.

Whenever I eat, I usually just try to eat as much as possible and of the right stuff, such as pasta and things with carbs, as well as lots of protein filled things. But I'll definitely go check out 3j's thread on that because I haven't yet.

I really do want to do a cycle of something though..I might just stick with Test E though like someone said. How long should I go for and should I still use a PCT?

All feedback is appreciated.
 
Your so young natural test is running throught its high if u get with 3j and train right u can b a beast in no time trust me. Im a client
 
Ok, I just emailed 3j so we'll see what he says. I really still do want to get some gear though..does anyone else have any ideas? Just stay with 500mg Test E/wk?
 
If you do roids ure gonna risk your HPTA. And if u decide to never use again. U can be stuck with low test for life. And ure gonna end up on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). And if you don't know what I'm talking about you have lots of research to do before you spend 1 cent on gear. Why mess up ure already high test..
 
First off boattach, go make your own thread, get off of mine please.

Whenever I eat, I usually just try to eat as much as possible and of the right stuff, such as pasta and things with carbs, as well as lots of protein filled things. But I'll definitely go check out 3j's thread on that because I haven't yet.

I really do want to do a cycle of something though..I might just stick with Test E though like someone said. How long should I go for and should I still use a post cycle therapy (pct)?

All feedback is appreciated.

I wish you would really avoid steroids at this point in your life, like everyone is saying, you have a lot of test running through your body already, if you get some advice from 3j, and train correctly your going to put on muscle and weight naturally.

If you end up sticking with doing roids, here's what you should do.

Atleast 12 weeks of Test E at a max of 500mg a week, dont go more than 14 weeks.

While running the test E, choose an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), ADEX, or Aromasin, research them up yourself and see what you would prefer. Im about to run my first cycle, I plan on going with 12.5mg Every day of Aromasin.

HCG, you can look into it yourself, I still have yet to decide on it, and everyone on here will tell you something different. In my OP, its personal preference, but recommended with future cycle of higher quantities of roids.

post cycle therapy (pct), YES YOU NEED ONE, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Everyone here including myself will say you should Run Clomid and Nolvadex together, 14 days after your last Test E inject. Nolva and Clomid should be take everyday for 4 weeks, maybe longer if you dont recover by then. post cycle therapy (pct) Should look like this
Nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 50/50/50/50

GOOD LUCK.
Dont do it. :confused:
 
There is no way in hell anyone in here should suggest steroids for him. Ya his weight at his height sucks but he's 20. People don't get it. Steroids make you anabolic but proper nutrition is what makes you grow. If you can't grow off cycle its gonna be a waste. You don't eat on or off you won't get big regardless. 4000 cals didn't work add another 500 not roids. You already have high test at your age and we see tons of young kids that do juice end up getting horrible sides and a lot experience bad depression. The faults are a lot worse then the gains which you won't get gains cuz you don't eat right. Sure you'll put on a few on cycle but if you can't eat to gain or atleast eat to hold your weight you'll be right back to 154
 
guys sounds like this is one actually heard all of you.. he has emailed me and i will take good care of him..
 
Took a pic a couple minutes ago, and yea I'm aware that I'm skinny..but to the guy that said something about a holocaust survivor, that's plain ignorance because I think it's fair to say otherwise.

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Not sure why the pic's not working either..it's from Photobucket.
 
he will bro trust me. follow what he tells you and work your ass off youll see the results your looking for..what diet did you sign up for?
 
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