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slimmdawg2

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Just wondering if anyone else felt like this on their first cycle? Sometimes I'm just like holy shit I'm doing roids I never thought I would do them but it happens n sometimes I'm like why am I doing this n then I pin myself n go to the gym and 4 get all about that cause lately the pumps and my workout have been bomb asf!!! 4week test and var
 
Test cyp every Monday and Thursday splitting 250mg each and var end 50mg split 25mg am\pm exemestane 10mg a day since that's how much the bottle has in 1ml!!!
 
You shoukd have just run test only so you could learn how your body reacts to it and how to adjust your ai to keep e2 in check. Then stack other compounds as you go forward

Did you get pre blood work for a base line?
 
hiram1st said:
You shoukd have just run test only so you could learn how your body reacts to it and how to adjust your ai to keep e2 in check. Then stack other compounds as you go forward

Did you get pre blood work for a base line?
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I do agree with you brother on Test only for a first cycle, and this is what I preach as well. But, if the OP was to do any oral first time around he picked the right one. Very mild on the system!

I think we all got that feeling the first time, the big gains in strength and great pumps. Its a good feeling. But keep at this bodybuilding thing for long enough and it just keeps getting better :)
 
Schredder said:
I do agree with you brother on Test only for a first cycle, and this is what I preach as well. But, if the OP was to do any oral first time around he picked the right one. Very mild on the system!

I think we all got that feeling the first time, the big gains in strength and great pumps. Its a good feeling. But keep at this bodybuilding thing for long enough and it just keeps getting better :)
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I got you just the noobs who just start stacking probably not really knowing their source and var being the most faked with let's say dbol what I should have posted

Just looking out
 
hiram1st said:
I got you just the noobs who just start stacking probably not really knowing their source and var being the most faked with let's say dbol what I should have posted

Just looking out
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Oh its a good point for sure! I wasn't saying anything negative towards you.

Maybe I should have said its the 'right one' if it is in fact Var lol.
 
No didn't get bloods done in begging but ya I know I should have after reading the blogs on this site should I still get bloods done now even though I didn't in beginning and yes for about 10 to 12 weeks
 
slimmdawg2 said:
No didn't get bloods done in begging but ya I know I should have after reading the blogs on this site should I still get bloods done now even though I didn't in beginning and yes for about 10 to 12 weeks
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10 weeks isn't enough with such a long ester, run it 12 weeks with a proper PCT of course.

It can never hurt to bet blood work. So should you go get some done now? Sure. Youll be able to see if your in good health, youll be able to see Estradiol levels and whether you should raise or lower or keep the same the Stane dose etc etc.

Only problem with NOT having pre cycle blood work is you now don't know what your Test, LH, and FSH levels were at before starting, so it will to base a successful PCT on that, as you now cant. That isn't the end of the world though, you can still possibly recover just fine. Just make sure to get blood work done once PCT is finished (6-8 weeks post) to find out if you did in fact recover
 
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Ok so I'll go 12 weeks and for pct imma take nolva n clomid togetherbut for pct I was wondering if I could a warm like ostarine to help out was reading some people do that? And ya I'll make sure to get bloods done pcauae ur right it won't hurtt me to get it dine now!!! And just say later on a wanted to run another cycle should I just run test by itself since I didn't do it this time so I could learn from better from that like test cyp or test ethenate?
 
slimmdawg2 said:
Ok so I'll go 12 weeks and for pct imma take nolva n clomid togetherbut for pct I was wondering if I could a warm like ostarine to help out was reading some people do that? And ya I'll make sure to get bloods done pcauae ur right it won't hurtt me to get it dine now!!! And just say later on a wanted to run another cycle should I just run test by itself since I didn't do it this time so I could learn from better from that like test cyp or test ethenate?
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I don't think it would hurt to do Test only next time around. (especially considering your reasoning "learn better") This could give you a better idea of how you react to it in terms of "test-specific" side effects, and will give you a second chance at learning estrogen management with Test being the only androgen present.

But, to maybe make you feel a little better about going that route for your second cycle, just up your dose a bit. Maybe do 750mg/wk of Test E or C the next cycle you do. This will make plenty difference in strength and size gain possibilities (diet/training/sleep in order) and will satisfy that "more is better" mentality a bit.

Hopefully the Var you're taking is not Dbol. It's not going to kill you.. but it's going to make estrogen management this cycle completely different than a test only cycle most likely. Which means it will be hard to know next time around.. where your AI should be dosed at off the bat. You'll play the guessing game, and dialing in phase all over again.

Your current cycle should yield a nice gain in weight though regardless (it's not like you're doing Test/Tren/Mast first cycle or anything). Just get it a little more right next time around :)
 
slimmdawg2 said:
Ok so I'll go 12 weeks and for pct imma take nolva n clomid togetherbut for pct I was wondering if I could a warm like ostarine to help out was reading some people do that? And ya I'll make sure to get bloods done pcauae ur right it won't hurtt me to get it dine now!!! And just say later on a wanted to run another cycle should I just run test by itself since I didn't do it this time so I could learn from better from that like test cyp or test ethenate?
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Nolva AND Clomid is good for PCT. I wouldn't add Ostarine in there though. I don't know much about that stuff but through a quick glance, and someone correct me if Im wrong, that product IS or MAY BE suppressive. If so, it would be completely 100% counter productive to you recovering from you cycle.

Id run Test alone next cycle sure, Id do 2 or 3 Test only cycle, upping the dose each cycle. Then, once you have a good handle on that start adding in some other compounds.

The bodybuilding road is a long road, don't jump the gun, slow and steady wins the race here. Fast and steady gets you hurt.
 
Tx for the responses guys and ya next cycle will be just test but like u said I might just raise the mg a bit but that's still a bit away and also so since I'm going 12 weeks n then 1month pct does that mean I have to wait 4 months to cycle again?
 
slimmdawg2 said:
Tx for the responses guys and ya next cycle will be just test but like u said I might just raise the mg a bit but that's still a bit away and also so since I'm going 12 weeks n then 1month pct does that mean I have to wait 4 months to cycle again?
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You are exactly right.

The only case otherwise is if you are blasting and cruising, (TRT to Cycle to TRT)

For someone going back to natty levels it goes Time on + PCT = Time off. 12 week cycle, 4 week PCT = 16 weeks off.

For someone going back to TRT it goes Time on = Time off.
 
slimmdawg2 said:
Tx for the responses guys and ya next cycle will be just test but like u said I might just raise the mg a bit but that's still a bit away and also so since I'm going 12 weeks n then 1month pct does that mean I have to wait 4 months to cycle again?
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A general rule of thumb for guys who actually cycle on and cycle off is, time on+PCT=time off. So if you did a 12 week cycle of Cyp, then waited 3 weeks to start PCT (yes, 3 weeks, you don't want to start PCT too soon. 2 weeks then PCT is outdated) and did a 4 week PCT youd have 19 weeks to wait. Just make it 20 as thats an even 5 months.

Can you run cycles sooner? Yes, but you run the risk over time of causing damage, possibly permanent, to you natural testosterone production by not allowing your body to produce on its own for long enough.
 
OK but so I wait 3 weeks afterbmy last pin to pct cause ya I read a lot of people wait only 2 just making sure do u guys both wait 3 weeks?
 
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