First cycle, Z or Axio? Test Prop, Tren Ace

[.deaffob]

Hi, since I see many threads that openly talk about Uncle Z, I'll say I'm planning to order either from Z or ******. (if this is not ok, please say that it isn't. I'll edit it right away.)

I hear both good and bad about both Z line and Axio products. I want to know what you guys think.

What I'm planning to do is this:

Cycle: 12 weeks
Test Prop 100mg EOD
Tren Ace 100mg EOD
Letro .5mg EOD
HCG 10~12 weeks

PCT- Nolvadex-4 weeks+
Clomid- 4 weeks

Since everyone wants to know the OP's stats,

240lbs Off-Season
220lbs Conest(BF is no way to know because many machines give me different %. Many times I get negative % when Im in contest shape)

During off-season I eat 7~8 meals
During on-season I eat 12 meals

I live right next to Venice, California and I have access to Human Grade stuff from Professional BBs, powerlifters, and just dealers. But even buying from close friend cost me too much. I'm part-time trainer and nutritionist while getting my biochemistry degree.

I talked to very knowledgeable friends and some national level bodybuilders. Many of them suggest me way too much and most of them are on many grams of stuff each week. So they did not know what "starting" dosages look like.

I've been training for 8 years and I'm 25 years old. Sincerely, I do not mean to brag but I have a physique that most people wouldn't dare to believe that I'm natural. I regularly squat 600lbs for 7reps.

I have never taken any steroid or illegal substance in my life. I know that most(ALL OF YOU ) of you will tell me to not to do Tren for the first cycle but I really want to try this.

I welcome any input!

Thanks in advance.

 

[Conrad415]

Seem like a good size guy. Never used Z before, I am a fan of GP. Always get mine from naps.

 

[.deaffob]

I see. I wonder why you could say napsgear but I couldn't say Gen XXL.

 

[thatotherguy]

You should only run the Tren Ace for no more than 8 weeks. I would go with Uncle Z if I was you.

 

[.deaffob]

What's the reason for this? I know many top bodybuilders usually suggest at least 4 months and most of them are doing 6 month cycle. They all do Tren haha. Anyway, what's the reason that I shouldn't do Tren for only 8 weeks?

 

[Die$eL~Man]

axio for sure

 

[Teutonic]

axio...top bodybulder s run for that long I imagine cuz health is the last thing on they re minds..

 

[.deaffob]

I see. I'll do axio then. As my friends put it, "you won't even feel it in 2 months bro."

 

[DADAWG]

either naps or z will do you right

 

[cyto33]

Ax is my first choice over any one.

 

[Larrybird]

Can someone explain to me how ax works? I went to their site and didn't find a 'buy' option. Seems to just be informative. ha.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

Can someone explain to me how ax works? I went to their site and didn't find a 'buy' option. Seems to just be informative. ha.

ther's the site of Axio and the other sites to buy...

is almost the same for all UGLs, axio, Geneza, Veyron, Endosyn, Oxide, sciroxx,...etc.

a few research on web should be suffisent.

 

[Larrybird]

ther's the site of Axio and the other sites to buy...

is almost the same for all UGLs, axio, Geneza, Veyron, Endosyn, Oxide, sciroxx,...etc.

a few research on web should be suffisent.

I need to do more research obviously. I still don't understand. In a sense, Axio is only a verified of UGLs?

Sorry if I sound stupid. Is there more info on UGLs on this site?

 

[.deaffob]

I see. When you guys say naps, do you mean napsgear the seller or is it a kind of brand?

No one gave me any input on my dosage.

Is 1:1 ratio good or should I go for 2:1?
100mg/100mg ok or should I go for more?
Should I change to Arimidex instead of Letro?

Thanks a lot guys.

 

[.deaffob]

I need to do more research obviously. I still don't understand. In a sense, Axio is only a verified of UGLs?

Sorry if I sound stupid. Is there more info on UGLs on this site?

From what I understand, UGLs' sites are their company sites. Sellers are distributors who buy stocks from them. Just like any manufacturers, they do not sell to any individuals directly unless the individuals buy a lot or do a contract(something like buying $50k/month).

 

[safety-man]

id spend the extra cash and purchase some of the human grade gear for the test part of your cycle and then do home brew for the tren which will save you money as well (make up for the extra cost of the human grade). shit with your education that should be a breeze. enjoy!

 

[Larrybird]

From what I understand, UGLs' sites are their company sites. Sellers are distributors who buy stocks from them. Just like any manufacturers, they do not sell to any individuals directly unless the individuals buy a lot or do a contract(something like buying $50k/month).

I get it now. Finding the UGLs can be somewhat of challenge sometimes though. It's not they're freely listed on their websites.

Thanks for the information! Helped clear things up.

 

[Shaptown]

I see. When you guys say naps, do you mean napsgear the seller or is it a kind of brand?

No one gave me any input on my dosage.

Is 1:1 ratio good or should I go for 2:1?
100mg/100mg ok or should I go for more?
Should I change to Arimidex instead of Letro?

Thanks a lot guys.

DEFINITELY run more test than tren. I usually run like 100mg of Test to 75mg of tren EOD for my cutters.

 

[.deaffob]

What about naps? Is it a brand or seller?

 

[DADAWG]

What about naps? Is it a brand or seller?

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