First ever log. Test Deca Dbol Bulker.

[jozifp103]

pip was rough today. pinned quads and have had a serious charlie horse all day.

 

[jozifp103]

day 2

Nothing to report on yet obviously, other than a slight upset stomach from the dbol and some pretty good PIP yesterday. all to be expected of course. shoulders/abs later.

 

[Matt0071]

I would say looking atnthe pics exspecially your back pose u hold majority of your fat (fat storage), in the lower back region, u seem to be higher then 13%, I would guess around 15-18%
Whats your height and waist measurement?
I would of leaned down abit before bulking, as u look like u got some mass, then hit a bulk stage lower in bf and look a lot bigger with more lbm and less bf, thats me tho
Depending on how your diet is exspect to gain some bf on a caloric surplus, so its gonna put your bf even higher then when u first started

 

[jozifp103]

6ft 215lbs. The back pic is a little deceiving because the split in the mirror panels makes me look a lot wider than I am. I used a bf caliper probably 10 times that week just trying to figure out the proper technique, my highest reading was 15% bf and most were closer to 13. Thanks for the input bro!

I would like to hear other thoughts of what my bf% could be if others can chime in as well.

 

[Matt0071]

Waist line measurement?
Use rhe calipers and also incorporiate your waist line measurement as well, you the 2 and u should be fairly close

 

[Matt0071]

Body Fat Calculator

 

[jozifp103]

Very useful thanks Matt. Ill have to update later when I try this out.

 

[Matt0071]

I think your readings are off caliper wise bro, think u need to loose roughly around 15 to 20lbs of fat to get u down to a great bf %, wouldnt take u that long if diet is in check
U have a solid frame, u cut u are going to look bigger at 190-195, then bulking putting on more mass=in return more bf, its the illusion aspect of the game

 

[YODATRON]

Yeah but if your diet is on point you can still bulk and loose bf I know I have while gaining size for sure you should be fine dude just go hard and try your best to get that diet on point going to try that bf app though looks good

 

[Matt0071]

I did the yo yo up and down theory bro, just in return gets u frustratedwhat I mean up and down bulking and cutting,trust me bro,continue on your cut, 8 weeks is just a start, do another 8 weeks, set a goal bf% u want to reach, recomp for a few months, u upregulate a lot of things incl your thyroid, then consider bulking in the fall/winter months

 

[Matt0071]

Yeah but if your diet is on point you can still bulk and loose bf I know I have while gaining size for sure you should be fine dude just go hard and try your best to get that diet on point going to try that bf app though looks good

Recomp at maintanence cals yes, but woukd def consider chopping some fat first
If u are sitting at 15% bf u can loose 1% bf per week if your diet is in check man, 5-6 weeks dieting and youll be more satified on how u look and build from there never getting to high in bf again

 

[Matt0071]

k so here's a typical mid day meal. 10 oz hamburger patty, bout a cup of brown rice, and some greens. the protein source alternates beef chicken fish pork...whatever I'm in the mood for.

for breakfast I had a protein/carb shake (25g whey/50g waxy maize carbs). not ideal I know, but it's the only meal I substitute with a shake. at

10am I had a large bowl of hamburger, eggs, and baked beans all mixed into a delicious slop.

after this meal I will eat a similar meal at 5pm then hit the gym at 630.

pre gym shake 25g whey/50g waxymaize
post gym same thing as above

9pm another similar meal to what I had for lunch.View attachment 557940

Homemade burger, or processed burger?
Not to be a pain in the ass but your diet looks subpar at the most, I think u need to work on your diet to get the most out of things
Carb timing is cruticial, just looking at your pre and post w/o meals seems to be off quite abit, you should be consuming your biggest meals pre/post workout, 25g whey, and 50g waxymaize is nothing, consume whole foods
Even when I cut which I still am now my pre and post w/o looks similar to this
150g extra lean ground beef, 5oz chicken, 90g rice, 125g no fat cottage cheese ( pre w/o)
Post w/o 150g extra lean ground beef, 1 can tuna, 90g rice, 125g no fat cottage cheese
(Greens) asparagus with both meals

 

[jozifp103]

Only prob is, I already started the cycle. I'm just gonna run with it. My total bf may go up a bit, but my overall bf% should stay about the same due to bigger muscle to fat ratio.

 

[jozifp103]

Homemade burger, or processed burger?

Lol hand packed my friend. 90% lean

 

[jozifp103]

Homemade burger, or processed burger?
Not to be a pain in the ass but your diet looks subpar at the most, I think u need to work on your diet to get the most out of things
Carb timing is cruticial, just looking at your pre and post w/o meals seems to be off quite abit, you should be consuming your biggest meals pre/post workout, 25g whey, and 50g waxymaize is nothing, consume whole foods

I hear ya man. Any input is appreciated. The shakes are immediately pre and post wo. There is a meal an hour before and after each shake. I'm usually cooking my post wo meal as I drink my post wo shake.

 

[Matt0071]

Lol hand packed my friend. 90% lean

Nice bro, looks tasty
Fuck jealous, cant wait to bulk lmao, love to eat!

 

[ADenver]

This is an awesome discussion! Looking forward to the updates!

 

[jozifp103]

I'm gonna prove you all wrong and end my cycle at 235 9%bf lol

 

[YODATRON]

I'm gonna prove you all wrong and end my cycle at 235 9%bf lol

Fuck yeah dude kill it buddy and you will get what you want out of it

 

[jozifp103]

i'll post a detailed description of my diet one of these days and you guys can evaluate it. Also gonna make a new thread with those pics of me and get some more opinions on bf% cuz now I'm very curious