first test cycle help 21 yrs old

she trains various clients and she trains herself when i saw. When she was trying to turn pro she had a really good trainer but atm she trains herself alone and grunts like a man cant believe the bch is using me

That's how most bbers do it. They can't work a normal job and put in the time so they live at the gym. All it took was for u to see "ifbb pro" and u started throwing the cash. I'm betting she hires a coach for contest prep bud. Like mentioned u don't need a coach. U need education. You can hire somebody like 3j who will set up your diet. That's money well spent. He does training for u too. U gotta stop being so naive. Everybody here except for the site sponsors isn't making a dime. I could care less who's training who. I just think your wasting your money.
 
u look good dude really you do.....and wo aas !

She may train other s who pay her; that may be her J O B. All we re saying is that look at how you look; your right on track. ive yourself time and the longer u wait the longer you ll have less dependence on aas
pumps
mental well being
weight ( a lot of water at first)
expense
LE probs

May I ask u 1 question.

U live at home ?

I ask as aas , done properly is a costly endeavor if u figger in ancil s, hcg, pct, anti e's, anti gyno, anti test

All these drugs are not
cheap
legal
easy to get

Another q-
Has she offered to sell u the gear.?
 
these guys arent shooting you down for fun bro..

they happen to give a fuck, looking out for you

listen to whats being said here man, don't throw away your health going for short term benefits that aren't going to last and will essentially make your balls drop off
 
I'm surprised no one's asked you this yet...

Height :

Weight :

BF % :

How many calories do you consume a day? - What types of foods? How often?

How long have you been training? How consistently? What methods or philosophies? How many times a week?

How many hours do you sleep a night?

What kind of medical problems might you have? Psychological, Physical? Medications?

And finally... What are you goals? Big, Lean, Both?


None of this will justify you using AAS because of your age. But, it will help the vets on here recommend which direction to take your training and nutrition. I will flat out recommend 3J all day long. I've been with the dude since Sept of last year and he knows his shit. If you ask enough questions and know much about nutrition and training to begin with.. you can take a lot away from a coaching by him. Now, if you've wasted all your money on your dealer/trainer.. the nutrition threads on this very forum will help you meet your goals just fine if you're willing to learn. Good luck my man, and drop the idea of drugs for now. Research AAS now, use them when you're brains finished developing.
 
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u look good dude really you do.....and wo aas !

She may train other s who pay her; that may be her J O B. All we re saying is that look at how you look; your right on track. ive yourself time and the longer u wait the longer you ll have less dependence on aas
pumps
mental well being
weight ( a lot of water at first)
expense
LE probs

May I ask u 1 question.

U live at home ?

I ask as aas , done properly is a costly endeavor if u figger in ancil s, hcg, pct, anti e's, anti gyno, anti test

All these drugs are not
cheap
legal
easy to get

Another q-
Has she offered to sell u the gear.?

Yes shes selling me the gear
 
If we gotta tell you what to say word for word then maybe you shouldn't even be leaving the house without a parent. Come on your an adult!
 
Mayybe a friendlier way? I mean we go to the same gym so i dont wana be rude and have grudges u know

You can use her if you feel like you are learning anything from her. But tell her you aren't interested in roidz yet because of your age. Don't justify your decision to her and if she tries to interrogate you on your reasons just be short with her. Something like cutting her off and saying "Sorry, but I'm not going to do them yet". Don't be skert bro... just a girl with big ole' clit.

You should go get your test levels checked. That may make you feel better about your decision, seeing the level you almost destroyed and all.
 
tell her to come here and we ll talk

starting with
ur health
has she looked at your bllod work
what is an ifbb pro doing selling sched drug s to a ( no offense) noobie





I SEE WHAT THIS IS son....tell her "I want to eat my self into an 2x large first shirt"...see what she say s . Be nice...
3j s where ur money s better spent I m o

You got 30 yr s to do gear.

( If her clit s big enough you can see it...run. She s no longer human and does not care about your LONGEVITY on earth.

I m finishedhere.

Make a move dude.

But do not leave here OK ?
 
tell her to come here and we ll talk

starting with
ur health
has she looked at your bllod work
what is an ifbb pro doing selling sched drug s to a ( no offense) noobie

I SEE WHAT THIS IS son....tell her "I want to eat my self into an 2x large first shirt"...see what she say s . Be nice...
3j s where ur money s better spent I m o

You got 30 yr s to do gear.

( If her clit s big enough you can see it...run. She s no longer human and does not care about your LONGEVITY on earth.

I m finishedhere.

Make a move dude.

But do not leave here OK ?

Ha !!! Very cool and right on post ^^^. Kid you have the best forum here, the best advice from the vets. I've been I this since 1980 and have seen n heard a lot. Stop, get rid of her and get a partner instead of a trainer. You can get training help here and train like a beast with a good partner with the same goal in mind. Stay here and get your diet here etc...
 
ifbb pro doesnt mean shit on a mental scale.... its like thinking a doc knows everything there is to know about the body just because hes a doc... I have met some pretty stupid doctors....

Our local IFBB pro fitness competitor is border line mentally retarded. Just because they are a pro means nothing. Some are very knowledgeable and nice, but others are very dull and stupid.
 
tell her to come here and we ll talk

starting with
ur health
has she looked at your bllod work
what is an ifbb pro doing selling sched drug s to a ( no offense) noobie





I SEE WHAT THIS IS son....tell her "I want to eat my self into an 2x large first shirt"...see what she say s . Be nice...
3j s where ur money s better spent I m o

You got 30 yr s to do gear.

( If her clit s big enough you can see it...run. She s no longer human and does not care about your LONGEVITY on earth.

I m finishedhere.

Make a move dude.

But do not leave here OK ?

boom.. best post of the thread right here!!
 
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