First time pinning?

aitheanswer2k4

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Ok first before i ask my question i will tell you a little about me and my stats :
height:6'0
weight:200
age:21
bodyfat:7%
exp: 3 years

Ok i have currently purchased some of uncle's USA z-line which by the way is painless! def. nervous it being my first time and all though. Been researching for about 8 months now,i have took a couple of ph's and ds though hdrol and mdrol. What i wanted to ask though is; Ok i first i pulled back the plunger of 1cc of air and injected it into the vial, but when i try to pull the plunger back for the test the plunger would just keep going back and there was very little would come into the syringe. I would have to push the plunger back up a little and do it again until i got 1cc of test. So i was wondering why wouldn't it coming in the syringe like normal? Maybe its just a common problem. Everything else went very smoothly though just that part. I withdraw from the vial using a 20g 1 1/2' needle and inject with 25g 1'. "I know" "i know" most people withdraw with 18g but i wanted the make sure i didnt put to big of holes in my stopper. Because they were a couple of people on logs saying that there's were breaking of into the vial!

(thanks for the help)
 
a 20g should be big enough. I draw Z's test e with a 23g and its a little slow but no problem really, just a little slower than normal. Make sure your pin is twisted nice & tight, when you take it out of the package its not twised all the way, maybe some air is getting out making the seal less tight & thats why its a little slower. Also inject a little more than 1 cc of air before drawing and it might move it along a bit. Good luck
 
i use a 23g 1 inch to both pull and inject.. i do it without problems..

if im pulling 1 ml, i push in 1.5ml of air.. and i pull back to 1.5ml on the syringe...

itll come in slow.. let it fill to the point where it stops, and then pull back some more.. it'll fill a little more and you'll usually be a 1ml....
 
I agree, the pin sounds like it was loose. Also, I always preload my pins. It's so much easier to get all of the pin-work and loading done at one time. Load the pins with 18 gauge then store them with your 22g tip screwed on tight. I draw 3cc's at a time with an 18 gauge pin and squirt the juice right into the open ends of the syringes. I believe there is less chance of contamination by not pinning the bottles as much. Store the preloaded syringes in ziplock bags in a room temp environment and you are good to go.
 
i use a 23g 1 inch to both pull and inject.. i do it without problems..

if im pulling 1 ml, i push in 1.5ml of air.. and i pull back to 1.5ml on the syringe...

itll come in slow.. let it fill to the point where it stops, and then pull back some more.. it'll fill a little more and you'll usually be a 1ml....

Almost exactly what I do...23g is where it's at.
 
I figured i might as well ask this in my thread dont want to make a new thread just for this question because there plenty of them. Well as you know like i said that was my first time pinning went very smoothly and didn't hurt one bit(except for the drawing problem i mentioned up above). I woke up this morning to find out my leg was so sore i know this suppose to happen i mean am pretty good when it comes to pain but i cant even extend my leg or hardly walk on it! So embarrassing today walked in to subway limping and my leg give out on me! The lady ask what was wrong i just said it was a vitamin B12 shot lol.So am doing another injection Friday and just wondering what i could do to ease that a little? I know messaging for about a minute after but i heard that wasn't good to do because of something like it messes with the absorption of it. Now that was just of a post i seen prolly wrong but just saying.
 
I figured i might as well ask this in my thread dont want to make a new thread just for this question because there plenty of them. Well as you know like i said that was my first time pinning went very smoothly and didn't hurt one bit(except for the drawing problem i mentioned up above). I woke up this morning to find out my leg was so sore i know this suppose to happen i mean am pretty good when it comes to pain but i cant even extend my leg or hardly walk on it! So embarrassing today walked in to subway limping and my leg give out on me! The lady ask what was wrong i just said it was a vitamin B12 shot lol.So am doing another injection Friday and just wondering what i could do to ease that a little? I know messaging for about a minute after but i heard that wasn't good to do because of something like it messes with the absorption of it. Now that was just of a post i seen prolly wrong but just saying.

i had the same prob, my solution was pin in a diff area.
 
well am still going to pin in the quads but maybe not to far out to the side as i did this time to my thigh. Maybe it was just the messaging i didn't do are something. LOL i tried to message it today that was def. not happen :thumbsdow was def. way to painful to massage now unless im in the shower with scalding hot water !
 
hahaha-b12 shot? next time just say you hurt yourself playing ball-the lady prolly thought you a lil weird.............hahaha
 
I have the same problem with quads, but its getting better. Still hurts but not as bad as first few. And glutes are just about painless for me.
 
Well its not when i inject it that it hurts, its the day after. Like i said though hopefully its because that i didn't message it. I mean this is crazy i have had my bone break thru on the skin of my finger and it didn't hurt this bad. I was up till 4 o clock this morning because the pain was so bad i couldn't sleep. There is no swelling are nothing i cant even tell were i injected it so thats good. It just bother's me that i cant walk. I'm really worried about Friday though because thats when i do my next shot but i dont wont to be like i am now because im going to prom Saturday night. There will be lots of dancing so def. not doing it in the glutes or the quads.I was going to do it in the shoulders but were going bowling so idk. (im mean has anyone ever had that much pain that i was describing?)
 
Ok one more question should i inject every Mon/Thurs or Mon/Fri? I know it would be better to do Monday morning and Thursday night which would make it 3.5 days but i can only do it at night. (thanks)
 
Well its not when i inject it that it hurts, its the day after. Like i said though hopefully its because that i didn't message it. I mean this is crazy i have had my bone break thru on the skin of my finger and it didn't hurt this bad. I was up till 4 o clock this morning because the pain was so bad i couldn't sleep. There is no swelling are nothing i cant even tell were i injected it so thats good. It just bother's me that i cant walk. I'm really worried about Friday though because thats when i do my next shot but i dont wont to be like i am now because im going to prom Saturday night. There will be lots of dancing so def. not doing it in the glutes or the quads.I was going to do it in the shoulders but were going bowling so idk. (im mean has anyone ever had that much pain that i was describing?)

sounds like from where you injected and the fact that your leg buckles on you, you hit a nerve buddy...

if you wanna shoot in the right place.. find the center of your knee.. go straight up it to a bit under where you balls usually hang on a hot day and move to the left 1/2 inch (on your left leg, go to the right on your right leg).. inject..

i love shooting my thigh.. love it..
 
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