First time Tren user

[Trainwrek]

I'm going to be trying tren E for the first time ever. researched it out and says normal dosage is 300-600mg a week.
Stats are 6'1 225, kept 15lbs from last cycle I ended 3 months ago. Training for 7 years, athletically and about 5 years of weight training. Just wondering if I should go on the low end and start with the 300 to see how my body reacts. A friend of mine told me to just try Tren A and if I don't like it to stop, but I've read about the negatives of Tren A and I really would rather do a longer esther to minimize the sides. I'm gonna be adding this to 750/wk of Sustanon (sust) for 12-15 weeks. I'm also wondering how long to do the Tren? I read 10-12 weeks... but I've also heard of people throwin winstrol on the back end of a test/tren cycle. Is this reccomended? Just lookin for someone with a little experience to let me know where to start with it.. thx guys.

 

[Italiano SPO]

I'm going to be trying tren E for the first time ever. researched it out and says normal dosage is 300-600mg a week.
Stats are 6'1 225, kept 15lbs from last cycle I ended 3 months ago. Training for 7 years, athletically and about 5 years of weight training. Just wondering if I should go on the low end and start with the 300 to see how my body reacts. A friend of mine told me to just try Tren A and if I don't like it to stop, but I've read about the negatives of Tren A and I really would rather do a longer esther to minimize the sides. I'm gonna be adding this to 750/wk of Sustanon (sust) for 12-15 weeks. I'm also wondering how long to do the Tren? I read 10-12 weeks... but I've also heard of people throwin winstrol on the back end of a test/tren cycle. Is this reccomended? Just lookin for someone with a little experience to let me know where to start with it.. thx guys.

I like Tren E personally so yeah, go ahead and use it. I'd run it two weeks shy of what you are running your Sustanon (sust) for. I never use Winstrol (winny) so I won't comment. Tren does wonders for me so I never have to use Winstrol (winny). Make sure you are running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle such as Aromasin and/or Letrozole. Pramipexole is a good choice to keep prolactin at bay. You can dose it at .50mg ED and taper it up and down. There's a thread titled "for those with Pramipexole questions" that gives you all the ins and outs for dosing Pramipexole. Your first time with Tren, you can probably go with 300mg EW. I did my first time and got good gains with just that much. I wouldn't go any less than that though. I stay at 400mg EW when I cycle Tren E and make good gains each time. That's my sweet spot. I'm assuming you already know about post cycle therapy (pct) since you have cycled already. If I've missed anything, let me know and best of luck bro.

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

Tren E is easier because typically, people have a 2week window of time when breathing constriction effects cardio and potential lifting intensity which enanthate estered tren can skip right by and tren ace hits so fast it can render fast hard sides if dosed too high.

 

[Trainwrek]

Thx for the info guys. Is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) a must when you use tren? I've never had any issues at all in the 6 cycles of done. I've never used an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), never had the need for it. Is this something I will need to do with Tren, being my first time. My buddy did a cycle with it for 10 weeks and he said he didn't use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at all either, jw if it's an absolute, if so that will be going in my order on friday also. I do not want to miss anything that I am going to need, because I'm not going to start a cycle without having absolutely every I need to do it. Just doesn't make sense to start a cycle if you don't have it all. Better safe than sorry. Thx again for the replies.

 

[Wormwood]

Thx for the info guys. Is an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) a must when you use tren? I've never had any issues at all in the 6 cycles of done. I've never used an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), never had the need for it. Is this something I will need to do with Tren, being my first time. My buddy did a cycle with it for 10 weeks and he said he didn't use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at all either, jw if it's an absolute, if so that will be going in my order on friday also. I do not want to miss anything that I am going to need, because I'm not going to start a cycle without having absolutely every I need to do it. Just doesn't make sense to start a cycle if you don't have it all. Better safe than sorry. Thx again for the replies.

Well I always use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on every cycle. And I always run a prolactin antagonizer when running a 19-nor, which tren is. Tren does not aromatize into estrogen so it will not cause estrogen related side effects (which AI's combat) but it does have the potential to cause prolactin side effects, in which case (if these conern you) you would take Prami, Caber, or Dostinex to prevent.

 

[Wormwood]

Ah I didn't see that Italiano already nailed that topic.

 

[juced_porkchop]

i rec trenA first time around man.

 

[Epic Ed]

I'm running tren E and glad I did. I'll eventually try tren A but if you do some digging you'll find most people with severe side effects are getting them from tren A. There is an argument that it's better to run tren A instead of tren E due to the short acting ester clearing your system quicker if you have bad sides, but what that argument does not take into account is that the sides from tren E are much less severe than those of tren A for most people. The logic is based on the false assumption that tren is tren and the side effects are the same from one ester to another. They aren't. The down side to running tren E is if the sides are severe then you might be spending a week or more contending with the unpleasantries while waiting for it to clear your system. Personally, I'm in week 5 of 10 weeks of tren E and I've had very few side effects, none of which haven't been manageable. I may extend it out to 12 weeks if I still feel good at the end of 10.

 

[Wartime71]

My buddy is using tren for the first time at 50mg eod and he says he feels it so maybe you can try that

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

My buddy is using tren for the first time at 50mg eod and he says he feels it so maybe you can try that

To clarify this dosing schedule only pertains to TrenA. All tren users should be sufficiently experienced with cycles allowing a dosage of 50mgED or 100mg EOD. Anecdotal evidence suggests dosing 50mg EOD will not be a sufficient dosage. However, there is some minimal anecdotal evidence suggesting a usage of 50mg EOD will be sufficient. A compilation of statistical data leads me to believe these results are by individuals who possess 3 or less cycles of experience.

In my opinion trenA should be utilized as a primary method of tolerance assessment as the relatively short half life allows for quick discontinuation.

 

[Turtleneck1971]

Epic Ed hit it right on the head, after a ton of reading I went with Tren E and was very happy that I did. The harshness of Tren a is very obvious and I have seen a few friends try A and have problems where Tren E was alot easier on the sides.

 

[Wartime71]

To clarify this dosing schedule only pertains to TrenA. All tren users should be sufficiently experienced with cycles allowing a dosage of 50mgED or 100mg EOD. Anecdotal evidence suggests dosing 50mg EOD will not be a sufficient dosage. However, there is some minimal anecdotal evidence suggesting a usage of 50mg EOD will be sufficient. A compilation of statistical data leads me to believe these results are by individuals who possess 3 or less cycles of experience.

In my opinion trenA should be utilized as a primary method of tolerance assessment as the relatively short half life allows for quick discontinuation.

Sorry I was not more clear yes my buddy uses tren a at 50mg eod.
He states he feels insane pumps and terrible nightmares. He has 5 big cycles under his belt but this is his first forray into tren

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

Sorry I was not more clear yes my buddy uses tren a at 50mg eod.
He states he feels insane pumps and terrible nightmares. He has 5 big cycles under his belt but this is his first forray into tren

Thanks for the response I will add that to the data points.

 

[Wartime71]

Thanks for the response I will add that to the data points.

Also repped I like your posting style lol