Food for Thought ....Do you understand what is happening around you

RJ i see and agree with your point. Although I have to say in my area its not all peaches in cream. There are many many good hard working people in my area (Detroit) that can not get a job. I think we owe it to them to take care of them until the can get more education in different fields so they can get new jobs. There are people where I live that have been well off for 30 years and now they dont have a pot to piss in. Its not their fault either. It is really bad, not just in Detroit but in the suburbs as well.

People that have paid on there house for 20 years are losing their homes. People with great educations and long diverse work histories.

Business are going under by the second. Even in nice suburbs that I have never seen a closed business before. Its happening everday and everyday its getting worse.
 
I use to check credit scores as part of my job, you would not beleive the amount of people i ran into that had 850 credit scores for 20 years and now its in the 500's.
 
one thing ill hand to detroit is that even the beggers try to earn the handouts. when i was last there they would run to the store for ya, stop traffic so you could cross the street (no jokes), in toronto they just put their hands out.
 
You know what we really need though. We need a good strong pro steroid pro bodybuilding immigrant with some experience in public office preferably from somewhere like a liberal state to step in and become president and really change the world.
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I'll second that. I wonder if it will ever be possible with him not being born in the US.

Besides, I believe that the president has much less administrative power then most people think. Blame Obama, Bush, Bill and so on but there are bigger issues at play that effect our ability to sustain our livelihood/lifestyle.

I really think that the answer is less government but we have been a quasi-socialist country for so long that I don't believe the whole of America can survive because the gov. has been such a large part of so many peoples lives. It's like our collective ability to provide for ourselves and make our own decisions has atrophied from too much assistance.

However, if we keep implementing new programs left and right we'll all be broke as a joke with no chance of "the American Dream." Take what you're making today and factor in higher taxes from all these programs and the unknown amount of inflation that is just around the corner as a result of the "quantitative easing" or whatever bs name they gave it. How much is your 50k/yr job worth then? Not much.

This class of the workforce will be struggling to make ends meet instead of living the life they had reasonably planned (not living above their means). The poor will still be poor. The very wealthy will still be very wealthy. We just won't have a middle class and the average person will have little possibility to achieve their dreams.
 
THE-DET-OAK said:
RJ i see and agree with your point. Although I have to say in my area its not all peaches in cream. There are many many good hard working people in my area (Detroit) that can not get a job. I think we owe it to them to take care of them until the can get more education in different fields so they can get new jobs. There are people where I live that have been well off for 30 years and now they dont have a pot to piss in. Its not their fault either. It is really bad, not just in Detroit but in the suburbs as well.

People that have paid on there house for 20 years are losing their homes. People with great educations and long diverse work histories.

Business are going under by the second. Even in nice suburbs that I have never seen a closed business before. Its happening everday and everyday its getting worse.
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please don't think i think unemployment benefits should be abolished. Like anything, there are reasons to have entitlement programs... problem is the abuse of those prgrams and the thinking that more of them will solve our country's problems.

Det - unemployment insurance is for exactly what you speak of. The problem is the majority that refuse to get the education, look for jobs, etc. that make it bad for everyone else.
 
THE-DET-OAK said:
RJ i see and agree with your point. Although I have to say in my area its not all peaches in cream. There are many many good hard working people in my area (Detroit) that can not get a job. I think we owe it to them to take care of them until the can get more education in different fields so they can get new jobs. There are people where I live that have been well off for 30 years and now they dont have a pot to piss in. Its not their fault either. It is really bad, not just in Detroit but in the suburbs as well.

People that have paid on there house for 20 years are losing their homes. People with
great educations and long diverse work histories.

Business are going under by the second.
Even in nice suburbs that I have never seen a closed business before. Its happening
everday and everyday its getting
worse.
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Your absolutely right Oak - I use to live in the Detroit area (Westland) all my life till 2004 - I've seen so many close friends
and family loose their jobs - all very hard
working people - many working for the big
three or effected by the downfall.

I was a repo man for a while in my early 20's
covering Detroit and I hated taking peoples
cars who could not afford them - some
deserved it - but some just needed a break
(and we gave it to them)

I was working two jobs at the time and one
went out of business - I had to take the repo
job as a 2nd job so no one would take my
ride - the 2nd job kept me afloat - with the
job market so bad, you're right - many hard
working educated people can't even find a
part time job in today's market...

I manage a company here in Florida and
interview many people who were making six
figures - now willing to take drastic pay cuts
and still out of work for over a year (it's so
sad to see)

I wish I could hire them all (well, almost all)
- my advise to anyone looking for work is to
go out and talk to the staff, introduce yourself to management - and put a friendly
face in front of them ... Your job is to help
them run and grow their business ... "and
make their life easier!"

>>> This is key - I hire most people when
I'm "not" hiring ... Its when I've had a chance to meet them is when I've decided to
hire them. :biggthump
 
I just moved from the Detroit area a few years ago also and WOW.. You want to see a city devastated buy the economy all you have to do is go there. Half of the streets in Detroit are half empty with abandoned houses everywhere. It is truly incredible and the first collapse of the automobile industry was the start.
 
Turtleneck1971 said:
I just moved from the Detroit area a few years ago also and WOW.. You want to see a city devastated buy the economy all you have to do is go there. Half of the streets in Detroit are half empty with abandoned houses everywhere. It is truly incredible and the first collapse of the automobile industry was the start.
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Yeah it's a shame because there are so many cool places there like Greek Town, Mexican Town and Heart Plaza.

LOL - in my party days I ended in that big round fountain in Heart Plaza - I forget what event it was or how we even got up there but they made us get out pretty quick!:sulk:
 
Fu k is thread still going?
Look guys nuke it, no matter what you say. Bush could never have known what Washington mutual and others would doing b/c they kept Clinton era guys in that position.

The housing issue was exacerbated and shown on cnet by black lawmakers putting pressure on fannie and freddie while dork pencil-pusher republicans said its dangerous to not be tighter with the funds while black lawmakers accused them of being racist..

Some people just cant be trusted to buy a house, democrats got votes for saying they could, short term it worked out for them. And the hearings are available on cnet.

Here's the rub with Obama, since 2006, when dems took control of congress, immediately the US went into Recession.
Since Obama took office, he was completely delusional about how to create jobs, which is what the US needed. He rather sought what was his right to enact job killing health reform and pursue cap and trade. The latter being a ridiculous job killer and also sends jobs to China.

The fact that he didnt make jobs number one priority is why people are pissed, yes he inherited a shitjob, after the dems took over congress. But he wanted the jobs douchebags, I didnt ask for that job.
And if you commies with your "sharing shit" ideas want to change the world. ITs called "donating" dont make other pay for your charity.
Too many government fuckers sitting on their ass taking private jets or first class for me to think I need to pay more. Fuck you idiots on that one
 
Read the beginning and not much after because I was missing the point on how this related to aas???

Shouldn't this post be moved?
 
I cannot comment on this as my responses would be considered felonious as he and 99 percent of those sumbitches up thereare not fit to decide on anything of value or importance..
 
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