FUCKED up! Coming off and need help ASAP

[JamesTheLegend]

Yea i know the feeling as well, had to go outside and catch my breathe cause inside felt like the walls were closing in. However, mine was just from alot of stress going on in my life at the time, havent had anxiety in years now

 

[MountainMan]

Sounds like a case of anxiety.... Most likely because the propaganda surrounding steroids

 

[Santaklaus]

Good luck with getting that corrected my man!

 

[OMEGA]

could be your injecting into a vein?

 

[Touchwood]

I'm fairly sure it was anxiety but still believe that it came from the high blood pressure. If I try it again I will try a smaller dosage. I was doing 600 as my gear was 300mg/ml so it was easier. I always aspirated. Never too hard though as the first time I did it it wouldn't budge and I pulled too hard causing a bubble inside it!

My gear is bio Chen industries. Although the red line on the bottle scratches off easily Si I'm beginning to wonder if it's a rip off. Hmmmm

Anyone have any feedback on if I should run post cycle therapy (pct) and how much?

Massive thanks again

 

[FormerFatty]

I had a lot of anxiety before I started my firsst cycle. So I got my blood work done and picked up a BP monitor. Got a baseline and that really calmed down any fears I had.

 

[Greens]

Thanks for all the replies. It means a lot that your all willing to help. I went to the docs today and although my breathing and pulse was fine, my blood pressure was really high. She said he was going to book me in on Monday for a blood test and EcG and also advised I don't run my half marathon I had planned this weekend. I then told her I was on gear as i wanted her to know but didn't want her to know prior to assessing me. She did say that cholesterol and bp can increase on test. As I don't get my results till a week after my injections are due (today and sun) I think I've decided to come off.

To answer some other questions, I'm 21 and none of my fam have a history of heart problems and no major anxiety issues.

Im sure this panic attack was anxiety but it still came from the test I believe.

I'm just not sure it's all worth it! Which is such a shame as iv spent so long researching.

Just hope 24 days on 50mg chlomid is enough! I've got liquid tamp on order which hopefully will be here in time to add to it.

Thanks again to all!!

Ouch man,..the part I put in bold makes me feel very badly for you.
You realize that at the age of 21 you've pretty much just fucked yourself if you want to apply for health or life insurance, right?(I've worked in the insurance industry for the last 3 years, I've seen it happen).
That panic attack just got "steroid user" put into your permanent health records, any inquisition into your medical history will reveal that(it's called an APS, or Attending Physicians Statement), and it is always the first record checked when applying.
That's why I warned you not to tell your doctor.

 

[Santaklaus]

Ouch man,..the part I put in bold makes me feel very badly for you.
You realize that at the age of 21 you've pretty much just fucked yourself if you want to apply for health or life insurance, right?(I've worked in the insurance industry for the last 3 years, I've seen it happen).
That panic attack just got "steroid user" put into your permanent health records, any inquisition into your medical history will reveal that(it's called an APS, or Attending Physicians Statement), and it is always the first record checked when applying.
That's why I warned you not to tell your doctor.

If I'm not mistaken though it is against the law to deny someone health insurance because of that. Same as if they had a drug/alcohol problem. No?

 

[Greens]

If I'm not mistaken though it is against the law to deny someone health insurance because of that. Same as if they had a drug/alcohol problem. No?

Nope.
They can decline for a plethora of reasons.
Substance abuse is among the top reasons, especially when using controlled substances i.e. steroids or illegal drugs.
The reason cited for a decline of coverage in that case would be "lifestyle".
I had a client that got declined because she'd been out for her friends birthday the night before, her bloodwork came back with high alcohol readings, so the company said "too bad so sad".
Insurance companies make their money by playing percentages, they're not going to take a risk on a person that abuses substances, especially illegal ones.

 

[killboy]

Just an idea.
Zephyr_987 said that a drop in the HTPA axis can lead to anxiety. What about adding HCG to keep the testes working. Do you think this might curb the anxiety?

Just curious.

 

[Touchwood]

Thanks for the replies but my main priority was health now. Health insurance is irrelevant if I cause myself actual harm now. I'd rather Iliminate the need for insurance than keep the option of getting it!

 

[Bullishness]

This just goes to show that there is a certain "Maturity" level involved in aas use. Clearly this young punk "psyched" himself out, went into a panic attack Due to youth and inexperience. Get to know yourself first.......

 

[Touchwood]

This just goes to show that there is a certain "Maturity" level involved in aas use. Clearly this young punk "psyched" himself out, went into a panic attack Due to youth and inexperience. Get to know yourself first.......

This punk here didn't psyche him self out. I have no issues using the gear or injecting. I actually looked forward to the injection. The anxiety was about the heart palpitations not the use. Read anywhere and it says anxiety and palpitations are a vicious circle.

I don't need to get to know myself, you need to get to know me. Punk

 

[Bullishness]

You seem like the constipated type, You might wanna just stick to protein shakes for now.

 

[Firebug]

Just thinking out side the box here but is there any chance your gear is fake? Im new to this whole thing but I work in the medical feild and thats the first thing I thought of....

If there is any chance at all its fake I would stop right away if you are having problems after pinning

 

[Santaklaus]

Nope.
They can decline for a plethora of reasons.
Substance abuse is among the top reasons, especially when using controlled substances i.e. steroids or illegal drugs.
The reason cited for a decline of coverage in that case would be "lifestyle".
I had a client that got declined because she'd been out for her friends birthday the night before, her bloodwork came back with high alcohol readings, so the company said "too bad so sad".
Insurance companies make their money by playing percentages, they're not going to take a risk on a person that abuses substances, especially illegal ones.

Huh, that's interesting... Always thought that couldn't happen.

 

[Greens]

Huh, that's interesting... Always thought that couldn't happen.

Really??
Think about it...
"Hi, I need health and life insurance,..by the way, I'm an alcoholic and meth addict"
"Oh, so what you're saying is that you could easily be dead in less than a year, or if you live be a massive drain on health coverage,..here's your insurance!!!"
lolololol,...sorry man, not trying to be a dick, but think about the kinds of losses the insurance companies would incur if that were the law.
That's why they do medical checks, to make sure that you're telling the truth on you application, so that they can charge you the right monthly or yearly premium, or decline you coverage if you're deemed too high of a risk.
Being a smoker will double your rates.
Having ever used any illegal drug(in Canada marijuana is considered "smoker"lol) will be cause for an increase in premium or decline, steroids, with the amount of media hype and misinformation out there, pretty much means decline.

OP said he didn't care about insurance, I'm guessing he doesn't have a wife and/or kids yet.

 

[GuitarSlinger]

Huh, that's interesting... Always thought that couldn't happen.

Long story short. I got shot in the chest with a .40 cal years ago. Let's just say I was VERY lucky and was actually working out the next day because of all the blood I lost. The insurance company at the time told me they were NOT going to cover it because it was not a life and death situation. Shot in the chest (you should see the other guy) 3 ft away with a .40 cal which has a 95% kill ratio but they were going to deny me coverage because the trauma bill was $8,000.

They can and will use ANY small excuse to deny you specially if the new mandate this piece of crap so-called president put in place doesn't get repealed. The stories you'll hear from those that work in the field will make you cry and be ashamed of being a human being.

And I agree this sounds like a case of mind fucking. You have no idea what kind of tricks your mind will play on you when you let it. But it is possible you have some bad stuff and possibly an allergic reaction.

 

[stanmarius]

Donno what to say but from all what i read learnd and so on 600 / week is kinda alot if ure a litle guy under 90 kg and are u taking something else? prework what are u taking because alot of guys are taking alot of super pomp and so on and those tipe of guys dont take the normal 1 cup they take like 2 3 cups because they think will be better And what H are u taking your shots because i had a friend and i did pin him every 2 3 days at 6 7 PM and the hearth problems are normal because ure taking the drug kinda late ... try taking them early in the morning because if u take them at night or in the midle of the day those problems are normal and those will come and also u are taking 600 a week . Hope that i did help

 

[Touchwood]

Just thinking out side the box here but is there any chance your gear is fake? Im new to this whole thing but I work in the medical feild and thats the first thing I thought of....

If there is any chance at all its fake I would stop right away if you are having problems after pinning

i guess there is no real way of telling is there?

i buy from a guy who does a lot of gear and its obvious he gets the best out of it if you see his physique!