Gains = response to drugs

[555_____]

You can eat all the protein and lift all the weights you like but if you don't respond to the drugs then it aint gonna happen.
Sure you can get in shape and look reasonable but if you want a physique that stands out its all down to your response to drugs.

"Drugs are the finishing touch", yeah right.
You can eat the best diet in the world and train like a madman but once the drugs go in its a whole new world.
Hell you can even look great with mediocre training and a shit diet as long as the drugs are in there.

 

[Rida5d]

How would u look great with a shitty diet even with juice on board?
Will u plz explain ? I'm new here..

 

[555_____]

How would u look great with a shitty diet even with juice on board?
Will u plz explain ? I'm new here..

Because that how it works.
I speak from experience, I can go slack with my diet and eat pretty much what I like when using and still maintain size and condition.
If thats not the case with you then maybe you don't have a good response to drugs, thats my point.

 

[Rida5d]

Because that how it works.
I speak from experience, I can go slack with my diet and eat pretty much what I like when using and still maintain size and condition.
If thats not the case with you then maybe you don't have a good response to drugs, thats my point.

But why I had better results when diet was on check running the same compounds?

 

[Austinite]

lol. Stop with the "I have experience" stuff man. Telling someone "Because that's how it works" is fruitless. Rida is asking you for the science behind your statement.

Start explaining your wild theories and stop spouting random info. Otherwise it will be evident that you are only here to spark issues between members.

 

[555_____]

But why I had better results when diet was on check running the same compounds?

If everything is on point you will get better results, my point is its down to the drugs.
The drugs can get you looking great at the expense of a god diet.
I see gym rats all the time who eat shit, get drunk most nights use rec drugs and yet still look in tip top shape because the throw in the gear.
Try a great diet and training and no drugs, then pop the drugs in.
Thats what Im getting at.

 

[gram of tren]

How would u look great with a shitty diet even with juice on board?
Will u plz explain ? I'm new here..

my entire physique is the result of drugs, dedicated training, and a crappy diet. most importantly my physique is the result of good genetics. would i have better results if my diet was spot on and perfect, id say so...but i also like to live my life and not spend all day prepping meals and carrying meals with me wherever i go. ultimately drugs are very important, but genetics is the bigger piece of the puzzle in my opinion.

lol. Stop with the "I have experience" stuff man. Telling someone "Because that's how it works" is fruitless. Rida is asking you for the science behind your statement.

Start explaining your wild theories and stop spouting random info. Otherwise it will be evident that you are only here to spark issues between members.

austinite you rely too much on science sometimes. i understand you want the science behind every little statement guys make, but just because we cant explain the reason it works, doesnt mean that it does not work.

 

[Rida5d]

Man , you are missing my point.
I had same cycle, done twice.. First one I ate crap, I saw zero results.
2nd cycle, nutrition was on spot , great results.
I see the key word here, nutrition. Specially I used same compounds.
If I had no response to drugs.. I'd end up with no results in both cycles.

 

[555_____]

lol. Stop with the "I have experience" stuff man. Telling someone "Because that's how it works" is fruitless. Rida is asking you for the science behind your statement.

Start explaining your wild theories and stop spouting random info. Otherwise it will be evident that you are only here to spark issues between members.

Science behind it?
Sure, go Google "How steroids work"
Steroids are designed to work for people at deaths door who cant eat a good diet.
Im not here to spark issues, Im here to post opinions and my experiences, people can either agree or disagree.

 

[Austinite]

Science behind it?
Sure, go Google "How steroids work"
Steroids are designed to work for people at deaths door who cant eat a good diet.
Im not here to spark issues, Im here to post opinions and my experiences, people can either agree or disagree.

lol. You're a joke brother. A complete joke. I think there's a comedy section somewhere for you.

 

[555_____]

my entire physique is the result of drugs, dedicated training, and a crappy diet. most importantly my physique is the result of good genetics. would i have better results if my diet was spot on and perfect, id say so...but i also like to live my life and not spend all day prepping meals and carrying meals with me wherever i go. ultimately drugs are very important, but genetics is the bigger piece of the puzzle in my opinion.



austinite you rely too much on science sometimes. i understand you want the science behind every little statement guys make, but just because we cant explain the reason it works, doesnt mean that it does not work.

A man after my own heart.
Finally someone who does what works not what other people read in books and tell him what works.

 

[gram of tren]

Man , you are missing my point.
I had same cycle, done twice.. First one I ate crap, I saw zero results.
2nd cycle, nutrition was on spot , great results.
I see the key word here, nutrition. Specially I used same compounds.
If I had no response to drugs.. I'd end up with no results in both cycles.

if you saw no results then either your drugs were bunk, or you training was severely lacking. if you're training hard, taking in enough calories(even if they are dirty), and using drugs...you should see some type of results.

 

[555_____]

lol. You're a joke brother. A complete joke. I think there's a comedy section somewhere for you.

Is that all you have?
Steroids work if your diet is shit.
Fact.

 

[Rida5d]

Will u plz answer my question.

 

[gram of tren]

and dont get me wrong. im not discounting that diet is important. if you can keep a very clean diet and keep the cals high you will get great results. but i do agree with the OP that you can get great results even with a moderately dirty diet.

 

[Austinite]

my entire physique is the result of drugs, dedicated training, and a crappy diet. most importantly my physique is the result of good genetics. would i have better results if my diet was spot on and perfect, id say so...but i also like to live my life and not spend all day prepping meals and carrying meals with me wherever i go. ultimately drugs are very important, but genetics is the bigger piece of the puzzle in my opinion.



austinite you rely too much on science sometimes. i understand you want the science behind every little statement guys make, but just because we cant explain the reason it works, doesnt mean that it does not work.

Not just science, but common sense sometimes. You rely on asking for physiques, which is stupid.

This was simple, very simple to answer. Common sense would suffice. But "Because that's how it works" is not acceptable for any level of intelligence.

 

[555_____]

Man , you are missing my point.
I had same cycle, done twice.. First one I ate crap, I saw zero results.
2nd cycle, nutrition was on spot , great results.
I see the key word here, nutrition. Specially I used same compounds.
If I had no response to drugs.. I'd end up with no results in both cycles.

No , that means you dont respond that well to drugs in both cases but you gained because you ate well.

 

[Austinite]

Will u plz answer my question.

He can't. Because he is not defining what a mediocre diet is.

So I can eat 1500 below TDEE and grow huge. Love it.. lol. Even God himself can't offer you that.

 

[gram of tren]

nobody said eat below maintenance. everyone agrees that you wont really gain in a caloric deficit. but if you're getting in enough cals, even if some are dirty, you will make gains. are you arguing that?

 

[555_____]

He can't. Because he is not defining what a mediocre diet is.

So I can eat 1500 below TDEE and grow huge. Love it.. lol. Even God himself can't offer you that.

As long as you chuck in the food you will grow, you sure aint gonna gain on a severely restricted calorie deficit.
You dont need to fuck about balancing macros and counting calories to get a good physique.
Just look at some of the guys on forums, balancing macros eating to the clock, talking about IIFMM all the time, yet they look like shit.
Go figure.