Gear seized … who cares … certainly not customs!!!!

Sparx69

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I just thought I would share this general information with everyone. Although it is certainly nothing new to most, it appears to be a major concern to others.

Brief history:

I am a 39 year old male who juiced regularly from the age of 18 til about 32 when an unexpected injury occurred and sidelined me from competitive sports and training. My gear has always been prescribed by a sports physician until now which is how I ended up finding this marvelous forum (I actually found the forum about 5 minutes ago … just ask Rocko).

I am a Canadian currently living and training in Portugal. My only passion outside of training are Harleys and choppers.

As a result of all the aforementioned I order a ton of shit from all over the world (mainly Canada, USA and GB). Supplements, Parts for my bikes, clothes and now gear etc. etc. On average I probably receive a minimum of 20 international packages per month all of which are supposed to go through customs.

This week one of my orders were seized by customs and I received a letter advising me that I had 30 days to claim the items and provide the appropriate documentation as they claim the package contains controlled substances. The source is irrelevant because it is not the fault of the source. In my opinion it is purely a numbers game and this one did not make it through.

In the three years I have lived here I would estimate 1 out of every 10 packages I receive is opened by customs but subsequently delivered. I know this because they advise me the package was opened in case I was too stupid to notice the customs tape on the repack. Of all the opened packages in 3 years only 4 packages (that I can recall) were seized in a similar manner and they were all performance parts for one of my choppers. All the documentation received was the same as that received for the gear seized this week. The parts were eventually received once I did the appropriate paper work and paid the necessary fees.

If I receive anything further regarding the gear package I will gladly update this thread as this will be the first package I do not claim in Portugal and most countries within the European Union likely handle these matters in a similar manner.

I just wanted to share this as it is from first hand experience and not a story about a friend of a friend who knew a guy etc... etc...

If anyone is interested I will try to scan and post the letter after I block out all the confidential information. Keep in mind it is in Portuguese but you can use an online translator if you are interested in the specific content. Words like 'controlled substances' and 'seized' are pretty much universally understood terms .... LOL

Cheers!!!
 
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I just thought I would share this general information with everyone. Although it is certainly nothing new to most, it appears to be a major concern to others.

Brief history:

I am a 39 year old male who juiced regularly from the age of 18 til about 32 when an unexpected injury occurred and sidelined me from competitive sports and training. My gear has always been prescribed by a sports physician until now which is how I ended up finding this marvelous forum (I actually found the forum about 5 minutes ago … just ask Rocko).

I am a Canadian currently living and training in Portugal. My only passion outside of training are Harleys and choppers.

As a result of all the aforementioned I order a ton of shit from all over the world (mainly Canada, USA and GB). Supplements, Parts for my bikes, clothes and now gear etc. etc. On average I probably receive a minimum of 20 international packages per month all of which are supposed to go through customs.

This week one of my orders were seized by customs and I received a letter advising me that I had 30 days to claim the items and provide the appropriate documentation as they claim the package contains controlled substances. The source is irrelevant because it is not the fault of the source. In my opinion it is purely a numbers game and this one did not make it through.

In the three years I have lived here I would estimate 1 out of every 10 packages I receive is opened by customs but subsequently delivered. I know this because they advise me the package was opened in case I was too stupid to notice the customs tape on the repack. Of all the opened packages in 3 years only 4 packages (that I can recall) were seized in a similar manner and they were all performance parts for one of my choppers. All the documentation received was the same as that received for the gear seized this week. The parts were eventually received once I did the appropriate paper work and paid the necessary fees.

If I receive anything further regarding the gear package I will gladly update this thread as this will be the first package I do not claim in Portugal and most countries within the European Union likely handle these matters in a similar manner.

I just wanted to share this as it is from first hand experience and not a story about a friend of a friend who knew a guy etc... etc...

If anyone is interested I will try to scan and post the letter after I block out all the confidential information. Keep in mind it is in Portuguese but you can use an online translator if you are interested in the specific content. Words like 'controlled substances' and 'seized' are pretty much universally understood terms .... LOL

Cheers!!!

Hey chopper man welcome to steroidoligy first off. Next your 100% right on it’s a # game. Some packs get looked at and most do not. Me I had 2 packs out of maybe 10 that were seized never to be seen again. And then the “Letter” Ya we all get it. I put mine through the paper shredder cuzz it made me want to through up when I looked at it.
But it’s all part of the game.
 
yeah you aint kiddn and i sleep like shit knowing that some fackn 22 year old at customs got his first grab..BUT WITH MY SHIT...IT BLOWS MORE THAN THE TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS
 
Hey sparx! Thanks for sharing bro! I'm more curious as to why you chose to live in portugal?? and is there a big demand for pro athletes there? Also, I thought alot of European countries allowed gear in personal amounts and some even had it legal?
 
If you receive that many international packages and have had 4 seized in the past (even though they weren't gear related) i guarantee your address is flagged.
 
Hey sparx! Thanks for sharing bro! I'm more curious as to why you chose to live in portugal?? and is there a big demand for pro athletes there? Also, I thought alot of European countries allowed gear in personal amounts and some even had it legal?

My wife and I came here a few years ago and I fell in love with it so we never left. I always wanted to live somewhere that I did not speak the language.... I had my bikes shipped over and am having a blast. I can ride year round. Takes me 1 hour to Ride to Spain, 9 hours to France, less than 20 hours to Monaco, Switzerland and a ton of other places that are new to me.

This side of the world revolves around soccer and fighting. ESPN and SPORTSTV do not carry North American Football, Hockey or Basketball but they show darts and rabbit racing..... go figure

I believe there is tolerance for shipping a lot of things here. I can't comment on what exactly is legalized because I do not have that first hand knowledge but there are many medications and supplements available here that are not available in North America because of the dosages or because they have not been approved for use in North America
 
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If you receive that many international packages and have had 4 seized in the past (even though they weren't gear related) i guarantee your address is flagged.

I am not a big believer in the 'flagging addresses theory' although it may be possible. With the equipment and technology used for scanning parcels there would be no need to flag an address as it would be a waste of money and manpower IMHO. My experience has been that the focus from customs (on this side of the pond) is on packages that they can generate revenue from. Customs fees, taxes and any other fees they can attach to make money.

I have had a lot of things shipped and have even received things opened by customs that they never should have been let through. I still maintain its a numbers game. If my address was flagged I believe a lot more of my packages would be opened or held before release. 4 packages over the years compared to the overall number I have received is trivial IMHO. Unfortunately it always happens to be the package that you REALLY REALLY want!!

Obviously common sense, and quantities play a major factor.

Cheers!!!
 
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They flag addresses

that's a legend. in fact only the faction who has a data connected with interpol flag.

it mean through the frontier of external union euro and amirican both.

not with-in. that the reason than australia and canada are the worst place to recive stuffs... but they can get though.
and UK is not under the same laws while is in EU

To be flagged it need and investigation, and to open a data with your personnal adress it need a federal warrant.

And seriously is not you poor 500$ which can interest feds. more the sellers than the recivers are interesting...
 
nah i think if they flag its only a short period--

If they flag, they enter your name in a data-bank. and it will stay... But, the activity of the flag will run for two year if nothing come througth the customs...

But as i said, they will not flag for 500$ or even 700$

Especialy in portugal.... Customs... give them a soccer-ball and they will let you quite...LOL

No reason to panic IMO.

ROCKo, Jayc, and some others know my storys of last year, and i posted with pix the proof than they didn't flag.
 
There are only 3 Portuguese names to choose from... Jose, Antonio, and Fernando

However, I do have packages shipped in my name and the name of a holding company that I use here.... makes no difference who it is addressed to. The procedure for handling packages is the same.

I am not a big believer in using false names and as for sending it to a friend or someone else..... only a real pussy would expect or ask a friend or family member to take a risk that one is not prepared to take for themselves!!!!
 
There are only 3 Portuguese names to choose from... Jose, Antonio, and Fernando

However, I do have packages shipped in my name and the name of a holding company that I use here.... makes no difference who it is addressed to. The procedure for handling packages is the same.

I am not a big believer in using false names and as for sending it to a friend or someone else..... only a real pussy would expect or ask a friend or family member to take a risk that one is not prepared to take for themselves!!!!

Amen bro. Sounds like the Portuguese customs is definitely making some extra $$ on some of these "seizures", more like hold it and hope they pay the "fines". That's something straight out of a mob movie. "I'll protect your business for a 30% cut of your proceeds". LOL :shoot5:
 
Do you know anyone in the UK, as it is perfectly legal to import them here. You can then get them posted to Portugal and under EU law internal mail is not opened, it is only if it comes from outside of the EU (that is certainly the case here in the UK).
 
My package that was originally seized by customs when I started this thread was delivered today. Everything I ordered was in the box except the 'Cialis' ... lol

There is a letter from customs but I don't speak or read the language so I will have my wife read it when she has time and update this thread later. Box was opened and resealed with 'Alfandaga' tape. (Alfandaga = Customs in Portugal).
 
Congrats.....all they took is the cialis huh...hahaha....some customs agent is having fun tonight on your dime.....at least you got the juice tho....you should start learning the language....it's practically a dead language but spanish is easy to pickup if you know portuguese....have a good one
 
ESPN and SPORTSTV do not carry North American Football, Hockey or Basketball but they show darts and rabbit racing..... go figure

Bro...that got me rollin on the floor! Fucking darts and rabbit racing?????
I would be the wise ass in the back ground trying to nail one of those rabbits with a pellet gun.
One thing that turned me off about what you said was no American Football!!! WHAT?? I can't live without it for the season let alone all together.
Couldn't you get satelite dish or something to get the NFL??
 
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