Genetically gifted arms but seriously lacking shoulders

Side raises for days. Do 10 sets of them and then begin your shoulder workout. You'll notice some nice width trust me. Military/dumbell press and front raises are overrated as they primarily target the anterior delts***8230;.which won't help with your arm/shoulder imbalance. Side raises and rear delt raises will work. If your shoulders are like most people you can beat the piss out of em and wake up the next day with minimal soreness. So beat the piss out of them accordingly lol. Assuming diet and all is in check.
 
Added some serious width and decent strength as I moved away from the pressing movements and towards side raises. My shoulder press didn't go down but now I can side raise 35 DB's for 10 sets for 12-8 reps.
 
R u fat bro?? Arms look a little chubby, just sayin. And ur bicept don't come to a peak, it looks flat. I'd definantly make sure & train ur arms & not jjust for maintinence, rather muscle growth. R u on cycle now?
 
This may sound dumb but I always get complimented on my shoulders getting big and I honestly think its my posture. Mu shoulders slouch forward making my chest look tiny unless I conciously draw them back. When I bench or do heavy bb curl my shoulders always get a huge pump and get fatigued.

If your shoulders slouch forward your upper back needs work to draw then back to a neutral position
 
I have the exact opposite problem. I can get huge arm's, but I didn't train them for years so now they're lagging. My shoulders are wide as Fuck and it's mostly genetics in my case. I did put serious mass on them though. here's a shoulder routine to try...

Standing Smith machine presses 4x10
Dumbbell presses(seated) 3x10 super set w/
Ez-bar upright rows
Arnold presses 3x10 superset with seated side lateral raises
Front delt raises (standing)4x10 superset with side lateral raise(standing)
Barbell shrugs 4x10-15 superset with seated rear delt lateral
Dumbbell shrugs 3x20-25 superset with reverse pec deck
End with drop set of upright rows using plates(start with 45 plate, then 35 if they have them, then 25, all the way until you're using the 2.5s.

I realize it's a lot, but if you're cycling you'll be fine and I got my wide shoulders to become wider and flat out massive doing this.

The Smith machine presses should be alternated week to week with standing barbell presses as Smith puts a lot of stress on the joints

Ya this is def high volume. How does smith machine put more stress on joints? Just curious not debating? I just never heard it. I have tendanitis on my rotator cuff and smith actually feels better of my shoulder hurts. I usually do db military but if it hurts I do smith. I stay away from barbell for the most part as those kill my shoulder after a while
 
Doesnt standing presses take away the taper look as well, has something to do with effecting your waste line, or just a myth?
 
Ya this is def high volume. How does smith machine put more stress on joints? Just curious not debating? I just never heard it. I have tendanitis on my rotator cuff and smith actually feels better of my shoulder hurts. I usually do db military but if it hurts I do smith. I stay away from barbell for the most part as those kill my shoulder after a while

The smith machine limits your natural range of motion by forcing a linear movement for things like squats, presses etc that would otherwise have a slight curve or horizontal component to them rather than strictly vertical; this can strain ligaments etc due to (slightly) un-natural motion vs free weights / barbells or a well-designed machine (typically hammer strength)
 
Exactly what patrol said. Thank you sir. Some people it feels better, but for me if I do it more than two shoulder routines in a row I begin to ache pretty badly
 
And as far as widening your waste,I have a pretty small waist. Any standing press like that works your core like crazy and with my back issues I like to have as strong a core as possible. I'm sure people that get huge abdominals easily might want to stay away, but it hasn't made me look like an upright brick yet and I've been doing this stuff for well over a decade
 
A smith machine locks you into a predetermined range of motion which may work for a small percent of the people using it. Individual anthropometry will determine what tweaks one needs to do for good form and a smith machine cannot take into account anthropometric differences this leading to increased chance of injury.
 
R u fat bro?? Arms look a little chubby, just sayin. And ur bicept don't come to a peak, it looks flat. I'd definantly make sure & train ur arms & not jjust for maintinence, rather muscle growth. R u on cycle now?

Fatter than I care to to be honest. I'm guessing around 20% give or take. Currently on what I call a recomp. Keeping calories under 2k, doing 30 min cardo 5x/wk, lifting for a hour

Taking 4ml/week of OP megabol30

I know it's working when I've dropped 5 lbs on the scale and more than 4 inches on the waistline
 
Fatter than I care to to be honest. I'm guessing around 20% give or take. Currently on what I call a recomp. Keeping calories under 2k, doing 30 min cardo 5x/wk, lifting for a hour

Taking 4ml/week of OP megabol30

I know it's working when I've dropped 5 lbs on the scale and more than 4 inches on the waistline
Well, keep it up bro...the hard work definantly pays off.
 
The smith machine limits your natural range of motion by forcing a linear movement for things like squats, presses etc that would otherwise have a slight curve or horizontal component to them rather than strictly vertical; this can strain ligaments etc due to (slightly) un-natural motion vs free weights / barbells or a well-designed machine (typically hammer strength)

I'm going to try presses on the smith standing up. As the bar comes down I can lean back to let it clear my face, on the way up once it clears my head I can lean forward and press it overhead

Regular barbell version the bar moves over my head then up
 
i bet a lot of you guys would think im over training but being on AAS i believe its quite hard to actually overtrain. provided you're getting enough food and rest.
 
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