Getting a Friend off an oral only...

ChaseTheYoke

ChaseTheYoke

Half Man, Half Amazing
My buddy who has been lifting for about 3 years with me told me today he is doing a cycle of Super DMZ 3.0 and is 8 days in. I told him it was a bad idea and am trying to find out what the next step needs to be for him.

I assumed he needs to stop asap and start a PCT, but does it need to be a full PCT?

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

Maybe like some DAA for the boys recovery. Or should 8 days be negligible?
 
Man I would never run an oral only cycle. Just doesn't seem like enough benefit.uour get shutdown refused less so might as well get most out of it. Unless ur a chick an do a anavar only cycle
 
louman said:
Man I would never run an oral only cycle. Just doesn't seem like enough benefit.uour get shutdown refused less so might as well get most out of it. Unless ur a chick an do a anavar only cycle
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Yeah... kinda got that. Just not sure what his PCT protocol needs to be after just 8 days or if he even needs one. Guess I'll wait for a vet to chime in.

It containes:

Dymethazine
Methylstenbolone
Alpha-1

All at 10mg
 
i know he has never had a hormone panel done so if someone could include the expected recovery time so he can get his baseline figured. Told him to stop and get some test e to run with it when he's g2g.
 
Bump. Kinda feeling like a dick, got my friend all panicky text spamming me and don't have a sure answer for him :Poke:
 
He could run just the nolva, for example, to be safe... 40/40/20/20 four weeks - shouldn't do any harm. Without a blood test there's no way of knowing if / how shut down he is.
 
Teutonic said:
just my girl off using oral only..tongues tired but....
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Lolz... He is about my height at 6'2" I would say between 215-220 14-17% bf at an estimation. He is 24 and all I know of him ever cycling was some hdrol between 1-2 years ago I guess.

Just from my experience here and the stickies I told him he should probably drop it and get some test to run along side after he does whatever pct he needs to do. So he doesn't lose his gains when he comes off and is shut the f down. I'll just give him some of my left over liquid nolva and let him run the rest of that at 40/40/20 at least. (depending on how much is left)

Should I suggest getting bloods now or after pct or both?
 
Nolva should do the trick then get bloods after. Right now they would be useless since he's starting pct and it wouldn't give you an idea of what's normal. Just have him do it after pct and see if they're at good numbers. There is no way to tell now if they drop a bit from before he started, but at least you'll know if he's normal range
 
Tell bro to man up and hit them pins!!! and blood work would be the best bet.
Also is that stuff over the counter?
 
He is running a Pro Hormone cycle. Let him run it and make sure he PCT's afterward. He will probably gain a few pounds of muscle and keep it. Look at the prohormone section, many guys start with them before a real cycle.
 
No many people run prohormones instead of the actual steroid. We have a whole section just for prohormones on here. Google the product he is taking and you will find that many people do prohormone cycles without any injectables.
 
BigBronz said:
No many people run prohormones instead of the actual steroid. We have a whole section just for prohormones on here. Google the product he is taking and you will find that many people do prohormone cycles without any injectables.
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http://www.steroidology.com/forum/p...60747-super-dmz-rx-2-0-erection-problems.html

Maybe you should read in that forum :confused:

My issue isn't whether you call it a PH or a steroid. It's the fact that your HPTA is going to be shut down hard in as little as two weeks. Just not worth it without a test base IMHO.
 
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banzi said:
epic let down thread after promising opening title.
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*sigh* In an effort to redeem myself I offer a piece of philosophy:

Do you know why god gave women yeast infections?

... So they know what it's like to deal with an irritating cunt.

Share that one with your girl... a real panty dropper.
 
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