Hello. I have been on TRT for about a year and a half now after testing at 190 testosterone. I am currently going to enlist in the Army and there standards require you are not on any medication. I wanted to know what would be the best way to tell my doctor to take me off. I only need to be off for 2 months of basic training. I can take what I have saved up before I go in and it should stay in my system. Is this something that is my choice or do I have to have the Dr take me off? I can retest after BT to see if I need to get back on. Any advise would help. Thanks, Drew
Getting off TRT to enlist in the Army. Need advise.
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No one will prevent you from coming off of TRT, but you better have your PCT protocol ready, and waiting the proper amount of time from last shot to start PCT. Assuming you're on Test Cypionate, or Enanthate, wait 2 weeks from last shot to start PCT. After you're done with PCT, you're going to be subject to whatever you can produce naturally. You say you're planning on going back on TRT once you're out of basic. How are you going to account for a deployment that's a minimum of a year? How will you get your prescriptions filled which would be filled by an on base pharmacy I'd assume, so the military would know you're on Test? Maybe you've thought of that already, I'm just putting some food for thought out there.
3J
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good post
halfwit
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I'm definitely not an expert on enlistment requirements, but I thought you would only be dq'd for treatments that require constant monitoring like diabetes. I went through the list of medical disqualifiers, and hypogonadism isn't on there. I'd talk to your recruiter before trying to go through basic without testosterone in your body - that sounds rough.
Just a thought at least.
My .02c
Halfwit. It's a tough proposition right now. The military has been reducing the total force, so they can and will dq you for almost anything, including things not listed. I know a recruiter, and adding any meds to your enlistment work is a big deal, slows down the process because it requires approvals before moving forward. Also, once the recruiter knows about it, if he is on the up and up, he can't allow you to enter in the paperwork without putting it down. Now if you WERE on it, and not on it, that's different.
Maybe the OP should pose the question to the recruiter as what IF someone was on TRT and wanted to join. Would they be dq'ed for that, would they be able to continue their doses in basic (which would be administered by a military nurse, because you sure as shit aren't going to be allowed to keep testosterone and syringes in your locker), etc.
Maybe the OP should pose the question to the recruiter as what IF someone was on TRT and wanted to join. Would they be dq'ed for that, would they be able to continue their doses in basic (which would be administered by a military nurse, because you sure as shit aren't going to be allowed to keep testosterone and syringes in your locker), etc.
Want2FeelGood
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You wont make it threw basic coming off Testosterone. Going threw basic with 200 ng/dl sucked like hell, being at 0 ng/dl i cant imagine.
Im not just saying that because its a tough it out thing. Im saying it because you wont be able to sustain all the physical training they will be putting you threw. They expect you to run what they tell you to run, ruck as far you they tell you to ruck, do as many pushups as they tell you, situps, obstacle courses, 0500 wakeup with lights out at 2100. Low crawling threw dirt and mud after being physically exhausted (smoked) for 4 hours.
Its non stop. People in top physical condition and Testosterone levels going in are struggling like crazy, getting broken down and beat up, with no time to recover. Once they see you struggling they are going to make sure to pay extra attention to you, they are going to smoke you longer, yell at you more, keep you up longer, and make life hell for you.
They are doing this to try to toughen you up, wont they wont realize is that one HUGE problem you have, no testosterone at all. Your body will shut down, so they will push you harder and make it worse. I'm not trying to scare you, just telling you what will happen and letting you know that is NOT a good idea.
I was a Sniper in the Army so I was in Infantry OSUT, but whatever MOS you have may not be AS rough, but its not going to be a stroll in the park. Trust me, its not a good idea.
Im not just saying that because its a tough it out thing. Im saying it because you wont be able to sustain all the physical training they will be putting you threw. They expect you to run what they tell you to run, ruck as far you they tell you to ruck, do as many pushups as they tell you, situps, obstacle courses, 0500 wakeup with lights out at 2100. Low crawling threw dirt and mud after being physically exhausted (smoked) for 4 hours.
Its non stop. People in top physical condition and Testosterone levels going in are struggling like crazy, getting broken down and beat up, with no time to recover. Once they see you struggling they are going to make sure to pay extra attention to you, they are going to smoke you longer, yell at you more, keep you up longer, and make life hell for you.
They are doing this to try to toughen you up, wont they wont realize is that one HUGE problem you have, no testosterone at all. Your body will shut down, so they will push you harder and make it worse. I'm not trying to scare you, just telling you what will happen and letting you know that is NOT a good idea.
I was a Sniper in the Army so I was in Infantry OSUT, but whatever MOS you have may not be AS rough, but its not going to be a stroll in the park. Trust me, its not a good idea.
Thanks for that post. Really glad to know I can come off whenever I like. I was a bit nervous about calling my doctor. Im only going for the reserves so I will not be deployed. As far as getting back on TRT, I may or may not do that. I lost a lot of weight and I believe having the extra pounds was the cause of the low T. If I do have to get on TRT, I can do it trough the military doctor. They can only deny you in the beginning. I will contact my doctor today and tell him I would like to discontinue the treatment. I prefer to tell the recruit that I dont take any medication than to have to explain.
You are right about that. They are really downsizing. I already contacted the recruiter and was told that any medication could get you dq. Some recruiters would let it pass, but I already have one negative on me which is that im 33 so letting things slide would be more difficult.
Wait just a minute. You do realize that the reserves can be deployed at ANY time, right?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/10/16/obama-ebola-reserves/17363251/
Almost every reservist has been deployed MULTIPLE times in their career, for period over a year. That includes Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, Kosovo, etc.
You make an excellent point. Trust me, I thought about all of this. It is scary, but sometimes you have to just jump in the water to learn to swim. I have experimented with this in the past. I once came off a cycle and tested for 900 2 months later. My doctor told me to skip a few sessions. Before I got on TRT I was a very active person. I believe the reason my Test dropped was cause I was working 2 jobs and not sleeping at the time. I was also eating bad really late and gained 30 pounds. I also had a newborn that kept me up all night. I am now sleeping normal again and lost all the extra weight.
I understand that risk. If I have to then so be it. But in my case im going in as an engineer. I have my Associates and im going for my BS in engineering. I understand that even though its not likely, I could still be deployed. But I guess im willing to take that risk. I have a few family members in the reserves. They do get deployed for weeks at a time. The reason I did not ask them these questions is cause I wanted to keep it quiet until I actually get in. The worse part about failure is explaining it to people.
I'm definitely not an expert on enlistment requirements, but I thought you would only be dq'd for treatments that require constant monitoring like diabetes. I went through the list of medical disqualifiers, and hypogonadism isn't on there. I'd talk to your recruiter before trying to go through basic without testosterone in your body - that sounds rough.
Just a thought at least.
My .02c
Yea, I already spoke to a recruiter. Basically they only want the best now a days cause of the limited spots. Simple things can get someone dq. Im also 33 so I my chances are a lot tougher.
Alpin
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I wouldn't touch the army and anything that requires strenuous exercice. 190 TT?
Theres no way in hell I would live at those levels especially undergo rigorous physical training.
my question is....
why in the world would you want to go through military service with castrate levels of Testosterone?
Is this mandatory?
Something tells me you want to enlist for your own reasons...
correct?
Theres no way in hell I would live at those levels especially undergo rigorous physical training.
my question is....
why in the world would you want to go through military service with castrate levels of Testosterone?
Is this mandatory?
Something tells me you want to enlist for your own reasons...
correct?
Alpin
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Just a suggestion,
You said you have a kid....
maybe a different occupation is in order?
up to you.
You are not the first one to ask me that lol. Right now its the only option I have since I cannot afford to go back to school. They will also pay off my current school loans. My entire family gets full benefits as well.
cybrsage
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Join the Air Force instead. FAR less strenuous AND you will actually see your family almost every day. If it is still the same, their boot camp is only 6 weeks long, the shortest of the services. I think the hardest training session you will have in Air Force boot camp is to learn exactly how to whine properly when the cable goes out in a storm.
SJC
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ha ha right! I was a marine for 6 years and the air force is a cake walk. Same benefits/pay with 90% less headache.
Alpin
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Good advise. Ive never met or knew anyone in the Air Force. I always assumed everyone chose the army cause it was easier. I will look more into that. Another option I was playing with was the Coast Guards. They have the same benefits as the Army, yet with no chance of being deployed overseas.
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