Give me your honest opinion..

[Milton]

Heres my honest opinion.... Sounds like you know how the site operates amd your telling everyone what they wanna hear about the age "25" rule....... Now for the members here if this guy is really un the 400 range for fuck sakes let the fucken man do some test you selfish assholes. Talking about not recovering "coming back" make the best of what god gave you fuck that lets see you guys train and carry on life with 400 test levels.

I dont believe anyone has a problem stucking there ass twice a week especially if they need it to function like a man. I admit i dread going into a blast where i pinn ed but once or twice a week is nothing. If you are telling the truth bro your not ginna magically get sky high test naturally your a grown man and the way i see it lots of guys run juice up not needing it, if you truly need it then you need it.

huh?

 

[bigben66]

huh?

you sound surprised Milton! - Don't be!

 

[Milton]

you sound surprised Milton! - Don't be!

ok cheers for putting my fears to rest

 

[49ER]

Ok cool 400 test is awesome its gonna make a world of difference if he waits 2 more years to use test

 

[49ER]

How old are you ? how long have you been in the game?

37 wish i started using a long time ago been on gear 4 years. I dont have a problem with 25 yrs old but his test levels suck for his age thats no way to live imo..... But i have a different mind set and goals so that may effect my opinions

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I've been at this more than 15 years training for more that 30 years. I've worked with NFL players and professional bodybuilders. I've seen a lot come and go. I've seen people destroy there lives and chemically castrate themselves. I've seen people loose there lives to depression. Professional athletes destroy there lives to play one more season and compete with the 25 year old kid when it was time to retire.
Low Testosterone is an epidemic in this country due to the Soy based diet and the fact that most people don't really eat food they eat food like products fast food and factory farmed foods that are void of nutrition. He is young. TRT for life sucks once you have moved past the days of seeking mass and its maintenance. To top it off most Endocrinologist don't know what they are doing. you need to know what wrong before you start. Pro hormones without proper PCT could be the issue. I'd do a pct and then do blood work. I'd figure out what the problems is before using steroids.

What if he wants to have Kids. Do you have children? DID you ask. He's barely an adult. What happened when he meet the most amazing woman and falls in love Still figuring out who he's going to be. At 33 you were who you were going to be for the most part.

Give this kid a chance to work it out before you go giving him bad advise.

 

[49ER]

I've been at this more than 15 years training for more that 30 years. I've worked with NFL players and professional bodybuilders. I've seen a lot come and go. I've seen people destroy there lives and chemically castrate themselves. I've seen people loose there lives to depression. Professional athletes destroy there lives to play one more season and compete with the 25 year old kid when it was time to retire.
Low Testosterone is an epidemic in this country due to the Soy based diet and the fact that most people don't really eat food they eat food like products fast food and factory farmed foods that are void of nutrition. He is young. TRT for life sucks once you have moved past the days of seeking mass and its maintenance. To top it off most Endocrinologist don't know what they are doing. you need to know what wrong before you start. Pro hormones without proper PCT could be the issue. I'd do a pct and then do blood work. I'd figure out what the problems is before using steroids.

What if he wants to have Kids. Do you have children? DID you ask. He barely and adult. What happened when he meet the most amazing woman and falls in love Still figuring out who he's going to be. At 33 you were who you were going to be for the most part.

Give this kid a chance to work wit out before you go giving him bad advise.

Ok so age 25 is not bad advice? Good advice would be dont ever touch aas. Lots of people have kids on test and many other hormones. I thought my kid days were over and had a new baby on the way at age 36 age 25 makes no difference in odds

 

[49ER]

I tried to erase my comment i only disagree with normal joes like my self with no power to bann lol no disrespect i love pirates of the carribean by the way

 

[LJCatBrah]

Had test levels of 400ish at age 28. Was exhausted. Couldn't stay lean. Sex was meh.

Am now blasting and cruising. I don't care if I end up on TRT, cruising on 150mg/wk lets me function 10x better at work and in the gym than my natural levels did. No regerts.

 

[oldmusclemike]

About having kids and thinking that you don't ever want them a the young age of 20-25 you still should be mature enough to know that at your young age you don't really know. So to do anything that might jeopardize that is a stupid mistake. Just saying, taking the chance is stupid.

Example , me and I've met a few other men. At age 27 I still did not want any children. Non and I was emphatic. All my younger days I thought I knew what I did not want. So I met a women that had a little girl age 4yrs. WE dated and I fell in love. I also was falling in love with the little girl.

Then I wanted to marry her and oops, what about the lil girl. Well ok I can handle it and we got married. Then two years in oops pregnancy comes along. Wife what are you gonna do I asked. Huh, I'm gonna have a baby! I said cool, it was a boy then two years later a girl. The greatest thing ever to be a father. We had a boy and a girl by me so I got the thing cut. I had one of each kind lol ha!!

Also my step daughter, my daughter better yet.

Get the point young bucks?? AND ALSO I remained training and competing in water skiing only to follow that with BB lifting and comp. I worked up the ranks and held a corporate position with a fortune 500 Co. All this while being a dad and husband and supporting us all.
Time to think future guys.

 

[49ER]

Ok great point everyone you too muscle mike..... So can someone answer me as to how waiting till age 25 is gonna make everything good and give him a better chance of having kids? Hes 23 so im havimg trouble comprehending how waiting 2 years is the smart thing?

 

[49ER]

Dam it my fingers cant hold back im gonna speak my mind. I really think not beimg able to have kids is a myth unless you can prove that they took 1000's of youmg healthy men and juiced them up and tested there sperm count and followed them around a few years to see if they can have babies then its bullshit just like all the other negatives beimg said out there.

I will agree due to mental developement and maturity issues you should wait until you are older and can handle yourself responsibly. In this case the man should be on trt forget the bodybuilding he actually needs testosterone wich is created naturally by our bodies think of it as supplementation lol

 

[oldmusclemike]

Ok great point everyone you too muscle mike..... So can someone answer me as to how waiting till age 25 is gonna make everything good and give him a better chance of having kids? Hes 23 so im havimg trouble comprehending how waiting 2 years is the smart thing?

Ya know 49er I didn't have a real problem with his age finding out that he had test problems already. Also some men mature younger than others. Ha what a joke with me,... I was 25 before I could grow a mustache with my neighbor when I was a kid was saving at 12 twice a day if needed. SO I can't speculate. but it does depend on some things.

My post was just to help some young guys to think hard about their future in which they don't know what they will want in years changing.

 

[49ER]

Id like to add that ive made alot of friends in the forums and gyms through out the years and ive yet to hear the bad news "i cant have babies"

 

[bigben66]

Id like to add that ive made alot of friends in the forums and gyms through out the years and ive yet to hear the bad news "i cant have babies"

Try going in the TRT forums then.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

My wife conceived 2 months after I got off a 2 year long cycle. I used Igf1-LR3 the whole second year. My son is the best thing I've ever done. He is the whole point of my life.

I wouldn't want anyone to miss out on that.

I know people who couldn't conceive and it killed him after his wife just couldn't deal it led him to drinking. He die after about six months of deep depression and self medicating. He was a brother here. Died in O4. I know people now are having problem conceiving who have cycled.

I'm pretty sure I'm done at this point. I'd have 5 more if I could. We will see. It will take a new women in my life.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Dam it my fingers cant hold back im gonna speak my mind. I really think not beimg able to have kids is a myth unless you can prove that they took 1000's of youmg healthy men and juiced them up and tested there sperm count and followed them around a few years to see if they can have babies then its bullshit just like all the other negatives beimg said out there.

I will agree due to mental developement and maturity issues you should wait until you are older and can handle yourself responsibly. In this case the man should be on trt forget the bodybuilding he actually needs testosterone wich is created naturally by our bodies think of it as supplementation lol

It's pretty much common practice to make a deposit in the sperm bank when you go on TRT threw a conceirge Dr.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Ok great point everyone you too muscle mike..... So can someone answer me as to how waiting till age 25 is gonna make everything good and give him a better chance of having kids? Hes 23 so im havimg trouble comprehending how waiting 2 years is the smart thing?

Waiting till 25 is about finishing natural growth. I grew an inch taller between 24-25 most kids metabolism aren't slowing down still at 25. It's about physical maturity and mental maturity. How well did you diet at 25. I was sure to get my barly and hops protein not so much let alone stick to a diet program.