Good quality steroids but no results

[straigth_jack]

Hi,

I am 30 years old and recently did my first steroid cycle. During my 8 week cycle, I did 250mg of testosterone enanthate, 2 times per week. I got a blood test before starting my cycle. It showed that my ''total testosterone'' was at 15 nmol/L (4.33 ng/ml).

Around 4 weeks into my cycle, I did another blood test to confirm the product I was using was real testosterone. The blood test showed that my total testosterone was now at 34 nmol/L (9.81 ng/ml). That is more than 2 times what I had.

Despite the huge increase in my testosterone, I didn't notice much of a difference. No increase in energy, pump in the gym or libido. I did gain about 5-6 pounds of muscle and my strength increased a little bit. However, I'm pretty sure those gains came from being serious in the gym and following a strict diet. I have made similar gains when I was natural.

Do you think I'm just a bad responder to steroids?

 

[Megatron28]

933ng/dl is still well within the normal range for Natural Testosterone levels. Either your were taking very little Testosterone, or your gear was underdosed.

What was your cycles dosing protocol?

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Yep I think your gear was completely fake... Do you have LH and FSH results? That will determine the only two possible options...

If LH/FSH were 0, the gear was heavily underdosed.

If they are normal, the gear was completely fake.

 

[kevlarcash2]

Yea I had a similar run in. Took some gear one time and has the same results. Seems fake man. Test I'm on now got me from 171lbs to 192.2
All about that diet

 

[100lbulua]

Dam bro that sucks. But I'd be happy with a 5-6 lb muscle gain on a cycle. Better then 30lbs of water haha

 

[STAUNCHED427]

IMO I think gear is either under dosed or completely fake rather than mega-underdosed which would be the case here with those levels (or the good diet and training boosted your T and your inital test results were the result of fluctation which is known to happen with T levels).

 

[Teutonic]

Bunk gearage

 

[Matt0071]

Bro heres my bloods on my cruise dose 200mg/week test e
U are running twice as much as me, u got some underdosed garbage gear, which lab man?

 

[maxwell0612]

Either the test is under dosed or you don't respond well to steroids. A lot of this whole game is how someone personally responds. I could make fantastic gains on 25mgs of anadrol but had a friend who needed at least 100mgs. You need to experiment and see what works for you.

 

[straigth_jack]

933ng/dl is still well within the normal range for Natural Testosterone levels. Either your were taking very little Testosterone, or your gear was underdosed.

What was your cycles dosing protocol?

There is indeed a very good chance that my gear was underdosed. What do you mean by dosing protocol? I am taking 250 mg on Sunday, and another 250mg on Wednesday...

 

[Megatron28]

There is indeed a very good chance that my gear was underdosed. What do you mean by dosing protocol? I am taking 250 mg on Sunday, and another 250mg on Wednesday...

That is your dosing protocol. I just want to make sure that you were not doing something like taking 150mg/week ans think you were running a cycle. As stupid as it sounds, it happens.

Have you checked your LH and FSH while on cycle?

 

[straigth_jack]

Yep I think your gear was completely fake... Do you have LH and FSH results? That will determine the only two possible options...

If LH/FSH were 0, the gear was heavily underdosed.

If they are normal, the gear was completely fake.

Unfortunately I don't have LS and FSH results. However, I don't think my gear was completely fake since my testosterone level doubled up. However, it might have been very underdosed....

 

[straigth_jack]

Bro heres my bloods on my cruise dose 200mg/week test e
U are running twice as much as me, u got some underdosed garbage gear, which lab man?

Thank you for sharing your results. It's very interesting. My 34 nmol/L is girly compared to your 44.5 nmol/. Do you know what was your level though before starting taking gear?

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Unfortunately I don't have LS and FSH results. However, I don't think my gear was completely fake since my testosterone level doubled up. However, it might have been very underdosed....

Can't really tell without LH/FSH... They are the key to answering your question. Like I said, either severly underdosed (fucking why to whoever bothered, I'd rather complete bunk than get shutdown for nothing) or completely bunk and the diet and training jacked your numbers a bit.

 

[3J]

id say high chance its underdosed.. i dont think he would naturally get up to 900 when he was much lower before the cycle

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Have to be pretty heavily underdosed... 500mg a week should put you around ~3000ng/dl if it's decent stuff, obviously give or take a little for each person.

250mg per week puts me at a 1500ng/dl +/- 100 (Pharma Test Enanthate), which is what I cruise on.

(Bloodwork for that shows as 47nmol/L for Total Test with 1700pmol/L Calculated Free Test). It's a really rough estimation, but judging by that and if it's anything to go by if your gear was legit it was probably dosed around the 100mg/ml mark...

I could be way off though. Either way, your gear was shit. 500mg getting you 900ng/dl? Bin that shit.

 

[Megatron28]

Have to be pretty heavily underdosed... 500mg a week should put you around ~3000ng/dl if it's decent stuff, obviously give or take a little for each person.

250mg per week puts me at a 1500ng/dl +/- 100 (Pharma Test Enanthate), which is what I cruise on.

(Bloodwork for that shows as 47nmol/L for Total Test with 1700pmol/L Calculated Free Test). It's a really rough estimation, but judging by that and if it's anything to go by if your gear was legit it was probably dosed around the 100mg/ml mark...

I could be way off though. Either way, your gear was shit. 500mg getting you 900ng/dl? Bin that shit.

That is almost a 2 to 1 ng to ml ratio. They probably had a sale. Buy one ng and get the second ng for free!

 

[Harnold]

could very well and most likely bunk gear but if you don't increase your protein intake even good gear won't help much bro. my 2cnts.

 

[straigth_jack]

Can't really tell without LH/FSH... They are the key to answering your question. Like I said, either severly underdosed (fucking why to whoever bothered, I'd rather complete bunk than get shutdown for nothing) or completely bunk and the diet and training jacked your numbers a bit.

What is that test is going to tell me ? If FSH and LH levels are low, it would mean that my gear is good since my brain has stopped sending those hormones responsible for the production of testosterone ?

 

[Pacific Rim]

Throw it in the garbage and find a new source.
There is no such thing as a non-responder.