Gyno even though adex use

[juced_porkchop]

I agree with everything except for one thing. U lost me at deca inducing gyno. I never heard of that...

I am trying to keep it in simple terms for op.
Deca DOES in fact cause or make issues worse related to gyno (prog), I dont need medical ref, I have exp with it. keeping estrogen in check is good and avoids issues for many, but I would still be a good idea to have something like Prami on hand.

 

[juced_porkchop]

guys dont shoot me immediately! you misunderstood something...first of all: I did 12 weeks of cycle (11 of 250mg of deca and 12 of test-e)...so, right now, Im 3 weeks off from deca and 2 weeks off from test...Im going to start pct next week, according to the standard timing considering what aas I took...so my pct will come when Ill be 4 weeks out from deca and 3 from test...that's a good time!
I didn't do hcg and AI during, not because I dont know what Im doing, but because my coach didint let me take them during cycle (he claimed that my dosage was low)...so, it was not a mistake of mine...btw, according to dr Scally, I should do a hcg therapy till Ill start pct, because I didint do it during...just 4 pin of hcg (8days)...than Ill start pct with nolva-clomid for 4-6 weeks...it looks Im on the right track, I think...what's wrong??? ok I didint do AI and hcg during, but I have to fix the mistake anyway...and Im trying it...want to stimulate my nuts to release again testo...for a while...
PS: never said I wanna use hcg during pct

HCG or no HCG its preference.. IMO
and your coach is an idiot sorry (or old schooler that doesnt know anybetter). take aas knowledge into your own hands from here on out.
use the HCG if you want, or dont..
my main concern is doing a good SERM combo PCT. if you have a few weeks for hcg do it, if not I dont see much point this go around. I dont feel 8 day will do much but hey.. up to you..

 

[OtisDriftwood]

HCG or no HCG its preference.. IMO
and your coach is an idiot sorry (or old schooler that doesnt know anybetter). take aas knowledge into your own hands from here on out.
use the HCG if you want, or dont..
my main concern is doing a good SERM combo PCT. if you have a few weeks for hcg do it, if not I dont see much point this go around. I dont feel 8 day will do much but hey.. up to you..

the fact that my coach is an idiot or an old schooler is the most common thing I'v heard in many forums ...sincerely, Im trying to figure out which hypotesis is more appropriate for him......He coaches lot of athletes and they stay healthy and winning during shows...really dont know...he does the same with everybody else he coaches.
btw, the good serm combo I gonna do is nolva-clomid...as you said...but never said I wanna use hcg during pct....neither said I start pct after only 2 weeks off from deca and testo...
given the fact my coaches did some mistakes, that Im trying to fix in the best manner, do you think I can completely shutdown the beginning of gyno when Ill start pct??? how long will it take to feel some improvements???
now Im running adex for 4 more days, trying to block new estro transformation...