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Shorty159

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Hi guys im 20years old. started training about 4 years ago ive got good diet and reguarly work out and a year ago i took a month of EPI's. i was told there was no need for a PCT so i didnt take one.
I got good gains strength and size and had no problems with side effects.
it wasnt till maybe a month or two later i noticed a lump under my right nipple its not that big or that painful.

I went to my doctor who said it happens in young men alot especially men who train with high protein intake.

So i left it for a while until i thought of gyno. I think i have a mild case as it doesnt look to bad just puffy nipples. When i have erect nipples my chest looks good but when there not it looks not so good.

I read some forums that said it could be bf% so i dropped to 6% BF it is still their and doesnt make my chest look any better.

I have heard of people who have had gyno for a while using letro and some other supplements and it has worked for them.

i dont want to go under the knife as its only a mild case but do you guys recomend anything?
 
You wouldn't be the first to have gotten gyno from epi. Seems epi can have the very opposite effect from person to person. Some people actually take it with letro to kill gyno, while others will get gyno from it.

Letro really does work wonders on blasting gyno away. You owe it to yourself to give it a shot IMO before you think about going under the knife.
 
You could try letro bro. But honestly I think unless you catch it fairly quick its not going to do much. If I read your post correctly it said this started about 4 years ago. After 4 years the gyno is most likely there to stay. If you are in Canada it is possible to get it covered by health care. On the other hand Letro couldnt hurt to try (except for crashing your estro levels). Let us know how it goes and good luck!
 
DADAWG said:
does that really help ?

whats your problem today ?
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Was I giving him misinformation or something? I'm just stating the facts. He's talking about his areola being a little oversized as far as I can tell, since the problem seems to go away when his nipples are erect.

I haven't seen any medication have a permanent effect on shrinking nipples. Even conventional gynocomastia surgery isn't designed to combat this effect unless you have grossly oversized areola, in which case there is a different cosmetic surgery you can undergo.

I kind of feel like you're putting a negative spin on a very nonchalant statement, Dawg.
 
no i started training 4 years ago but took epis one year ago and this happened :(
letro has some serious side effects though right?
do u need to take letro then nolva after the letro?
were can i get proper letro?
i could post a picture if that would help
 
BBE said:
You wouldn't be the first to have gotten gyno from epi. Seems epi can have the very opposite effect from person to person. Some people actually take it with letro to kill gyno, while others will get gyno from it.

Letro really does work wonders on blasting gyno away. You owe it to yourself to give it a shot IMO before you think about going under the knife.
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Letro WILL NOT kill gyno... reduce yes, eliminate no... if gyno is there u will always have it, it maybe put into a dormant state with some meds, but it WILL return if u cycle in the future... the only perminant solution is surgery
 
i wont cycle again but i just want to get rid of it. its not that bad just want something to reduce it i have another doctors appointment on thursday could he prescribe be letro or something like that?
ive read about aromasin would it help?
 
Tough to see in the photo... but you appear to have an accumulation of fatty tissue in your breasts that looks like pubertal gyno. Kind of like this:
ginekomastia2.jpg


Yours seems less severe that the above photo.

Have a read here: Male Breasts (Gynecomastia) – Causes & Treatment ~ Ask The Questions to the Doctor (Free)

It seems your chest is different looking that I had thought you were describing it. I thought you were saying you basically had "pancake nipples". Anyhow, if I was in your shoes, I would give 2 months of raloxifene with 2 months of letro a whirl. If you don't get the results you're looking for from that, you're done for buddy: surgery or nothing.
 
i live in northern ireland how could i get my hands on raloifene and letro?
what kind of course should i take
my nipples werent too puffy in that picture
 
rui products has them both. I'd probably use their letro at half a mL daily and raloxifene at 2.5mL daily.
 
6% bf is VERY lean, and if that is what you are referring to in t he picture then you mis-calculated.

Also -- whoever told you to run EPI without a pct, go back to that person and sock him in the throat for very bad information.

Epi is strongly anabolic, low androgenic. This can cause delayed-onset-gyno to manifest post cycle since once you cease EPI -- testosterone is shut down, DHT is shut down and estrogen begins to creep up -- this imbalance can trigger gyno....

DHT is important for controlling estrogenic sides.....and gyno is very unpredictable as to what it will best respond to.

Ralox, nolva, and Serms in general never did much for me.

AI's like letro, arimidex may have worked better but messed up my lipids and immune system.

For whatever reason suicide AI's like aromasin and I even tried injectable formestane and that worked excellent. Ultimately ---the gyno is there to stay -- but can go dormant and UN-irritated if you keep the androgenic profile higher in each cycle (if you decide to cycle more).

I run either aromasin, formestane on cycle and you can bet your ass I run AndroHard v3 since I am sponsored. The sh!t works.

-Matt
 
Fuk

I was 6% and it didnt make much of a difference.i was told to take a clean bulk and in that picture i had begun to bulk.

I dont know about doing a cycle. Would it not make my gyno worse or make my chest look worse.

I know its most likely here to stay but what can i do to minimize it and keep it less noticeable?
 
It doesn't sound to me like you've sat down with your doc and explained what's going on with your chest. I'm about 80% sure what you have there is lipomastia.
 
^^
If it is simply lipomastia ---- consider yourself lucky.

Hard fibrous ducts are usually there to stay and camp out --- they go dormant, they wake up etc.....
 
Shorty159 said:
I was 6% and it didnt make much of a difference.i was told to take a clean bulk and in that picture i had begun to bulk.

I dont know about doing a cycle. Would it not make my gyno worse or make my chest look worse.

I know its most likely here to stay but what can i do to minimize it and keep it less noticeable?
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Usually time my friend....I believe it will eventually go into hiding again and not be tender.

Then if you cycle again keep those androgens high!

If you want to give AndroHard a try -- PM me and maybe we can work a deal. If it works (reduce gyno) -- the guys here will respect that and appreciate it.

-Matt
 
Thanks for all the help so far guys. I was going to take t-bullets with a pct would this make my gyno bad?
I have a doctors appointment tomorrow morning so i will see what he says and let you guys know. Fingers crossed its not gyno.
What is that hydro stuff matt?
 
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