Has anyone tried this cycle?

Tonk86

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28. 6ft 2. 233lbs. 14%bf. 2nd cycle. Want to increase strength (I like seeing it go up, make me feel on top of the world) & with the aid of sound nutrition, reduce some bf.

I'm going to run the rip blend 200mg per 1ml 70/65/65 (I think is the dosage for Rohm labs) Test, Tren & Mast, all fast esters for a 8 weeker. I'm going to pin 1ml Mon/Wed/Fri & take the weekend off, so fairly low to start & if necessary I'll increase it to find the 'sweet spot,' just being cautious with Tren. I'm also stacking with Oxys Alpha Pharma, 40mg ed for 4 weeks. Standard SERMS PCT already bought... Nolva & Clomid. HCG & Adex on standby (as it's a short cycle)

Anyone care to shed some light on this cycle, open to suggestions, ideas, etc. Anyone done it?
 
Should pin it every other day. You said it there fast acting esters. If its your first tren run, you should've got it separate instead of a blend. Ai's and hcg aren't standby's. Use them.
 
I have to be honest here: The overwhelming opinion of most people on here is to wait until you have at least 3 good, solid cycles under your belt before dancing with Lady Tren.....She is a beast of a different breed, that's for certain, and there ARE some rather dramatic side with it! The advantage that tbone mentions above about separates, is that if the sides from Tren are too severe, you can simply stop taking it, and since its a fast ester, it will be out of your system quickly...
 
Roger that. That's one reason why I'm using ace. Did test 400, dbol for 1st, responded well! Gained & kept 22lbs in 10 weeks, bf stayed the same. Want something stronger!
 
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Roger that. That's one reason why I'm using ace. Did test 400, dbol for 1st, responded well! Gained & kept 22lbs in 10 weeks, bf stayed the same. Want something stronger!

That said: I did a Test Prop, Tren Ace, Mast Prop cycle early last year using AML gear, and it was a MONSTER cycle! :) BUT...I was running separates....
 
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Nice nice. Well I have actually got the separates coming now because the rip blend wasn't available after all. Will mean more frequent injections but at least I can control the ratios... What was your dosage?
 
3 but one was an oral only. Var, Test E & Dbol & Test 400 & Dbol. Bet you're gona suggest Deca aren't ya...?! Haha. Responded well, made good gains & kept them, I suffer on PCT though, makes me moody, miserable & lethargic, fine on cycle, zero sides! Happiest guy in the world! Lol.
 
3 but one was an oral only. Var, Test E & Dbol & Test 400 & Dbol. Bet you're gona suggest Deca aren't ya...?! Haha. Responded well, made good gains & kept them, I suffer on PCT though, makes me moody, miserable & lethargic, fine on cycle, zero sides! Happiest guy in the world! Lol.

its the logical path.. deca and tren are both 19-nors.. i recommend you do deca this cycle and save the tren for next cycle
 
let me get you started


TEST E, DECA, AND DBOL:
THE BULKING STACK
By:3J
3J's Nutrition | Diet and fitness consulting to get you to the next level.

The purpose of this article is to educate the amateur bodybuilder on the correct set up of a powerful traditional bulking cycle; Test e, Deca, and Dbol. The use of Deca and Dbol has been long hailed as the mighty bulking cycle. Traditionally used as an off season cycle, the stack will do a wonderful job of adding muscle mass and letting the user come in at a heavier weight when reaching their goal body fat when cutting.


TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE
I have said it a million times before and I will say it again, testosterone is king. It is the foundation in which all cycles are built upon. Running any compound without the use of testosterone will leave you with hormone levels that are similar to a females. Testosterone Enanthate is a slower acting ester. With a 7 to 10 day half-life, it requires a less frequent dosing schedule to reach and maintain stable blood levels making it the better choice for beginner steroid users who may not be too fond of needles and do not want to do every day or every other day injections. Properly used, the injection schedule should be every 3.5 days on Monday and Thursday of the week. Dosages for testosterone enanthate range from a minimum of 400mg a week to 800mg a week for the average steroid user and cycles should be a minimum of 10 weeks due to the amount of time it takes to reach peak levels. More advanced users have been known to go over 1000mg a week, but one should be aware that it takes a lot of cycle experience to get to those levels. Longer estered testosterones like testosterone enanthate are known to cause more estrogen/aromatization side effects due to higher peak values over the course of the cycle. Proper AI/SERM precautions should be taken.

DECA DURABOLIN
Deca has been the go to compound for bulking in bodybuilding amongst steroid users for years. Deca is a 19-nor compound. Its made from the same cloth as trenbolone. Consequently, it also shares many of the same issues as Tren. Being a 19-nor, deca is liver toxic. It also does not aromatize very well, but will cause a rise in progestin levels. Due to its ability to rise progestin levels, deca is known for causing libido issues or ***8220;deca dick.***8221; Proper progestin/anti-estrogen drugs should be used to make sure you keep you from experiencing libido issues. It also will shut down natural testotsterone almost immediately with the first dose. Deca has as strong affinity to the androgen receptor and does great as an anabolic; it will raise both nitrogen retention and igf levels. Water retention does become an issue on deca, but the proper progestin drugs should keep it at bay. Deca is also known to help joint issues by storing water in the connective tissues and improving collagen synthesis/mineral content. Some use the drug in low dosages such therapeutic effects. The recommended proper dosage for Deca is between 400-600mg a week. Though the ester connected to deca has a longer half life, its safe to inject deca on the same schedule as test e and c. In theory, deca can be injected once a week, but twice a week is the gold standard. Due to the highly suppressive nature of deca, its recommended that hcg be ran with the cycle.

DIANABOL

Dbol is traditionally found in pill form. Like winstrol, Dbol is a 17aa oral steroid. 17aa orals are made the way they are to survive the first pass at the liver. Unfortunately, this makes dbol highly liver toxic (almost as toxic as winny). Dbol will also cause hypertension (a raise in blood pressure) so proper monitoring of your blood pressure should be maintained. Dbol is not the best at binding with the androgen receptor and most its effects are secondary. Dbol will suppress natural testosterone production. Many who are new to steroid use will try to do a Dbol only cycle. When dbol suppresses your natural production your levels start looking more like a females. Therefore, it should always be ran in a cycle with testosterone as a base. Dbol is said to be as strong as anadrol, though most will not see the same effects due to unequal dosages. Dbol is known as a kick start compound in cycles. Its ability to add weight comes on quickly and many people use it in the first 6 weeks of their cycle. Dosages range from 20-100mg a day, though an amateur user should stick to under 50mg to start.



The cycle:

OK, lets set up a cycle for a first time user of these compounds combined. Keep in mind this isn***8217;t a beginners cycle and stacking multiple compounds that you haven***8217;t used in the same cycle may cause side effect and leave you wondering what the source of the issue was.


Testosterone Enanthate 300mg twice a week Week 1-14

Deca 200mg twice a week Week 1-12

Dbol 30-50mg a day Week 1-6

HCG 500iu a week (250iu twice a week) Week 1-14


PCT starts two weeks after final injection

Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
 
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