HCG as a base instead of Test-Oral Cycles.

[Eisaggeleas]

Hello dudes.I am just wondering this: Lets say someone wants to do a cycle with orals (ex. Ana Anavar (var) ) and he doesnt want to take along with Anavar (var) testosterone as a base not even a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of test.Is it possible and good to go if he choose to take at the end of the cycle and before PCT (lets say if the cycle length is 8 weeks in the week 7) Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 3000iu (splitted) before the start of PCT to sock the testicles to produce again test (3000iu i think is good enough for this compound but i dunno for winstrol,dbol,tbol and other orals)?.And then start PCT with a low dose Nolva (in case of estro rebound from HCG).Any thoughts will be appreciated a lot.

 

[mlupi319]

You will still have suppressed test during the cycle--> and no exogenous testosterone = low test side effects

 

[Eisaggeleas]

In this example Anavar is not the best roid to shut down my own test production so much( i know that it will suspess it, as all AAS do it) and the cycle length is not big.So, instead of using it in week 7 of a 8-week cycle someone may need to pin lets say 1500iu/week so it wont be a problem during the cycle along with proviron?.

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Hi Eisa

Look, ana Anavar (var) only cycles are for women. The gains you seek will not come from ana Anavar (var) . You are a man, men are bigger than women because of more testosterone right?!

Anyhow your question is: " can I use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) instead of test as a base for a cycle". Answer: NO

Now for your ana Anavar (var) only " cycle" you do not need hcg, but once again a cycle with Anavar (var) in it should be stacked like Test-Tren- Anavar (var) . A Anavar (var) cycle alone isn't gonna do much at all and Anavar (var) is one of the most expensive things you can buy because women buy it in groves, you know since a Anavar (var) only cycle is for a girl.

You have already said ana Anavar (var) is not very suppresive and yeah that is true. So then you mentioned other orals... winstrol, dbol, tbol, ect. Well mark my words if you do an oral only cycle it will lead to boner issues. Get some test and pin it up or don't use AAS. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is a great compliment to any cycle and a must in heavy cycles, but it is no substitute for test. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) helps you rebound, it does not supplement testosterone. GL and do NOT do an oral only cycle.

 

[Unconquered1]

bam!!! cracka you just got served! lol, people get too freakin serious on here. take a xanax and calm down.

 

[crazyfmike]

Hey asshole, i made an account just to shut you up. Unless you have studied Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or science in general, do not flaunt the knowledge you think you have. You are regurgitating the same bullshit that you have been bullshited. No one likes a bullshitter. In retrospect for shortness, You can use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for a base in oral cycles, as one time I pondered the same question, and decided to experiment on myself in conjunction with several blood test and a variety of dosages. What I already knew was that AAS cause shutdown, but what I did not know is how. In conclusion in became conclusive that AAS shutdown LH and FSH, without these two, testosterone levels plummet. Another variable that I already knew was that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mimic these, and therefore it did not matter what oral I took to cause shut down of FSH and LH, because Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mimics these on its own.



Therefore I discovered through periodical blood test, that 50mg dbol daily, and 1750iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) weekly consistently kept my test levels in the 900's. Although Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) had to be administered for 3 week(ish) BEFORE the dbol. /

Opening with "hey asshole" is uncalled for.

Providing your experience/information would have had allot more impact. Tren like flashes simply discredit what might be valid info.

 

[mlupi319]

Hey asshole, i made an account just to shut you up. Unless you have studied Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or science in general, do not flaunt the knowledge you think you have. You are regurgitating the same bullshit that you have been bullshited. No one likes a bullshitter. In retrospect for shortness, You can use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for a base in oral cycles, as one time I pondered the same question, and decided to experiment on myself in conjunction with several blood test and a variety of dosages. What I already knew was that AAS cause shutdown, but what I did not know is how. In conclusion in became conclusive that AAS shutdown LH and FSH, without these two, testosterone levels plummet. Another variable that I already knew was that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mimic these, and therefore it did not matter what oral I took to cause shut down of FSH and LH, because Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mimics these on its own.

Therefore I discovered through periodical blood test, that 50mg dbol daily, and 1750iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) weekly consistently kept my test levels in the 900's. Although Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) had to be administered for 3 week(ish) BEFORE the dbol. /

How often were you pinning?

 

[Harnold]

promlgmuscle,

we got enough assholes around here without you joining. i should know ive been labelled one by the red boxes under my name. why don't you go back and chat with your elite friends and impress them with your knowledge.
everyone here is open to learning but drop the shitty attitude. remember, there's always someone a little smarter out there.

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Hey asshole, i made an account just to shut you up. Unless you have studied Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or science in general, do not flaunt the knowledge you think you have. You are regurgitating the same bullshit that you have been bullshited. No one likes a bullshitter. In retrospect for shortness, You can use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for a base in oral cycles, as one time I pondered the same question, and decided to experiment on myself in conjunction with several blood test and a variety of dosages. What I already knew was that AAS cause shutdown, but what I did not know is how. In conclusion in became conclusive that AAS shutdown LH and FSH, without these two, testosterone levels plummet. Another variable that I already knew was that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mimic these, and therefore it did not matter what oral I took to cause shut down of FSH and LH, because Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mimics these on its own.

Therefore I discovered through periodical blood test, that 50mg dbol daily, and 1750iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) weekly consistently kept my test levels in the 900's. Although Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) had to be administered for 3 week(ish) BEFORE the dbol. /

Meh. Well you must have done a lot of experimenting to figure out 1750iu a week is the ideal amount and that you need to start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) exactly 3 weeks before a dbol only cycle... calling bullshit here.

If you could provide some documentation of your experiments that would be great for discussion.

OP, doing oral only cycles is a no-no. Stick with a test base.

 

[TylerDurdn]

I'd rather run test with it, more gains to be had imo and it's a proven way to run oral cycle. I would know I've tried it on myself

 

[mlupi319]

It's a great finding...maybe applicable for short cutting cycles when you're looking for a quick and easy recovery...but any cycle over 8weeks or one with the goal of gaining any muscle I'd still prefer test (insert your favorite ester) and get well over 900 levels... the only drawback is you would need to run a normal pct vs a light post cycle therapy (pct), big deal. you still gotta pin, either sub-q or IM.

 

[crazyfmike]

It's a great finding...maybe applicable for short cutting cycles when you're looking for a quick and easy recovery...but any cycle over 8weeks or one with the goal of gaining any muscle I'd still prefer test (insert your favorite ester) and get well over 900 levels... the only drawback is you would need to run a normal pct vs a light post cycle therapy (pct), big deal. you still gotta pin, either sub-q or IM.

Bingo!

Still have to pin!

Not a oral only cycle now is it.....lol

 

[slair]

Bingo!

Still have to pin!

Not a oral only cycle now is it.....lol

exactly, even if this does work....what is the point? why would anyone prefer to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with an oral instead of test and/or other injectables. So they can have less gains? I just don't get this!

 

[Matt0071]

no it's for people that dont wanna stick a needle into there body but in return try to find another magical solution that " just might work" haha
why dont u just stick with pro hormones bro if anything and see how the herbal magic works for u

 

[Harnold]

How if your post even a contribution to this thread? Are you trying to impress the people that labeled you an asshole on here by telling off one who is apparently shares the same attitude as yourself? I do not see where you get "elite" friends. I do not claim to be a "genius" but if you are so impressed with A study I and a few others did, then I guess in your eyes I am elite. Do not worry about my "shitty attitude, and why must you point it out, and jump on the BANDWAGON as everyone else? No one likes a follower. And thanks for the words of wisdom, I am truly Impressed.

take your 12 posts and fck off, you obviously just wanted confrontation when you registered. if I truly wanted to impress you I'd take one of my 20 inch arms and wrap around your head and squeeze it like the zit that it obviously is.