healthy vs junk foods and there effect on body comp
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Protobuilder69
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IIFYM doesnt mean eat anything you want. You have to get your fiber (10g for every 1000 calories), and your micronutrients from vegetable and fruits, then hit your goal macros. Also eating healthy gives you better energy and its just better for your body, but does not effect body composition, also you have to watch your fructose intake, no more than 50g a day.
You're going to be eating "clean" by default to hit your fiber and micronutrient goals anyway, for example if you're on a cutting diet and your macros calls for 250g carbs you cannot eat pixi stix and poptars because you will not get your fiber and micronutrients, it would be very hard to do so, also you will feel hungry if you eat empty carbs, so you can go over your carb limit very easily.
You're going to be eating "clean" by default to hit your fiber and micronutrient goals anyway, for example if you're on a cutting diet and your macros calls for 250g carbs you cannot eat pixi stix and poptars because you will not get your fiber and micronutrients, it would be very hard to do so, also you will feel hungry if you eat empty carbs, so you can go over your carb limit very easily.
IIFYM means you calculate your energy (calorie) and macro (protein, fat, carbs) needs and tailor it to your goals. It says the foods you choose have no affect on body composition when comparing isocaloric diets. Fill your diet with foods that you enjoy and will satisfy your micronutrient needs as well. Contrary to popular belief, the names of the foods you choose do NOT affect your body composition. Here's my take on the issue:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/diet-forum/659460-primer-dca-iifym-aspiring-dieters.html
There's no need to watch fructose intake. So long as you fit the fructose into your carb allotment there is no problem. Fructose will not replace muscle glycogen, it will replace liver glycogen stores, but you'd have to get all your carbs from fructose for this to be an issue.
We all do, whether you eat 'clean' or 'dirty' we all fit foods into macronutrient allotments. Some people don't like to think they do but so long as you calculate energy needs and fill those needs with food then you are doing IIFYM.
STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
Junk food = me feeling like I've been fed a high GI chemical poison meal = feeling like shit/heavy brain fog/shit feeling = diet and training out the window = bad effect on body comp.
Mrrippedzilla
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If you followed IIFYM then you shouldn't feel like shit since your meals would contain protein, carbs and fats - making the GI list completely useless for modern diets/nutritional trends.
GI only applies if you eat a high GI carb by itself, the minute you add protein/fats to the meal the GI value falls drastically.
"Feeling like shit" doesn't mean you can't train hard (ask anyone on a severe caloric deficit), "feeling like shit" also doesn't mean you should go and binge and ruin all your efforts - that's all you & your mind, not the food.
To the OP:
"Junk food" has absolutely no effect on body comp if you follow IIFYM, I repeat NO EFFECT. This has been shown in science, this has been shown in my own results & with my clients
STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
I do not disagree with you, I was referring more to the chemicals that fast food is loaded with and how it makes you feel. I'm used to eating clean all the time/good propper food not that processed shit.
This is the ingredient list off a McDonald's McDouble. Which chemicals are you speaking of?
Also, why the need to put down one type of food at the sake of your own? Just bc you eat 'clean' or 'good proper food' doesn't mean one diet is any better than the next nor does it mean your results will be any better than if it included 'that processed ahit'.
Also, why the need to put down one type of food at the sake of your own? Just bc you eat 'clean' or 'good proper food' doesn't mean one diet is any better than the next nor does it mean your results will be any better than if it included 'that processed ahit'.
STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
I'm just going by my experiences fellas, it's a fact that fast food makes me feel very lethargic and foggy after I eat it. Regardless of the amount, yet I never have a problem with my home cooked meals I stick to. It's disgusting stuff, the more I stay away from it the more I learn to hate it.
All a good thing though!
I am not denying that it's not so much the food, rather the macro intake that deems whether you gain, maintain or loose and I have always said that.
All a good thing though!
I am not denying that it's not so much the food, rather the macro intake that deems whether you gain, maintain or loose and I have always said that.
aitchfourex
Young Grasshopper
The actual effect of "dirty" foods on your body comp energy wise I don't think makes a difference. Your health, on the other hand, is a different issue. As long as you're not extreme and literally filling all your carbs and fat with junk though, you should be good to go.
From my personal experience eating "dirty" causes me to retain water, and bloat up like a woman on birth control.
I would advise against IIFYM, but if it's a friday night and you want a cheeseburger.... Why the fuck not?
I personally try to avoid anything made by man when wanting to look my best.
I would advise against IIFYM, but if it's a friday night and you want a cheeseburger.... Why the fuck not?
I personally try to avoid anything made by man when wanting to look my best.
Same. My theory is due to all the salt and being calorically heavy your body naturally lacks the proper amount of enzymes to digest the food efficiently.
Mrrippedzilla
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I appreciate your new here, but the OP's questions was does eating "dirty" effect body comp (fat loss/muscle gain).
The answer is no.
If your macros were the same, the only reason you would retain water - as you admitted in your 2nd post - is because of an electrolyte imbalance (salt).
Also, the calorie content would stay the stame - so chuck out your enzyme theory
I appreciate your new here, but the OP's questions was does eating "dirty" effect body comp (fat loss/muscle gain).
The answer is no.
If your macros were the same, the only reason you would retain water - as you admitted in your 2nd post - is because of an electrolyte imbalance (salt).
Also, the calorie content would stay the stame - so chuck out your enzyme theory
Oh, I didn't read the question as in fat loss/muscle gain, but in a more literal sense.
I do believe consuming your macro nutrition from junk food versus natural foods does impact your physique cosmetically.
Example,
Hitting all your macros via Burger King VS real food would result in a different physique cosmetically speaking.
There's a reason Jay Cutler doesn't eat a Big mac to hit his fat/protein needs. Assuming we're talking about your average beach going Joe than I feel the answer is "no/insignificant" like you said.
You don't really have any clue what Jay Cutler eats though do you
?And in your example, the answer is there is no difference in body comp or cosmetics assuming the same macros
Mrrippedzilla
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Why would hitting your macros through burger king instead of "real" food make you look aesthetically different?
The answer is, cosmetically, it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference but I'm giving you a chance to justify this anyway
Also, jay cutler, and most ifbb pros, are generally poor examples to use when it comes to nutrition and training.
Apart from certain protocols that need to be followed the week before a show (water manipulation, carb load timing, etc), IIFYM alone will easily get you into single digit bf% with a ripped physique.
Why would hitting your macros through burger king instead of "real" food make you look aesthetically different?
The answer is, cosmetically, it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference but I'm giving you a chance to justify this anyway
Also, jay cutler, and most ifbb pro's, are generally poor examples to use when it comes to nutrition and training.
Apart from certain protocols that need to be followed the week before a show (water manipulation, carb load timing, etc), IIFYM alone will easily get you into single digit bf% with a ripped physique.
You stated it in your response -electrolytes(salt). Enzymes could also be a factor due to some people lacking various ones like: lactose, amylase, etc...
When you lack enzymes you become bloated/gassy.
**But we're talking fat/muscle not cosmetics.
I guess from my personal experience when I see people saying "Oh I do IIFYM" they try and eat Burger king twice, and then at the end of the day realize the large amounts of fat they consumed doesn't leave any room for the 100g of protein they require.
When dieting I'm more....
Boiled chicken, brown rice, sweet potatoes(gerber) until I get sick
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