Helladrol First Timer (Do's/Don'ts)

[Methodology]

Was thinking about trying this for my first ever "steroid" cycle. Was going to try the mr. supps Helladrol Stack, but I would like advice on what I should be doing and what I shouldn't be doing on this stack (i.e drinking).

I'm typically going to try and do this after September, as I can gain more knowledge on the matter, and because after that point, I will be strictly just working, and I want to beef up for my vacation in December.

 

[BeastinTheEast]

Smart move man, gathering knowledge is the BEST thing you can do!

Do's
-Drink plenty of water (1 Gallon Minimum)
-Train with high intensity
-Take Helladrol doses 6-8 hours apart for even distribution on hormone
-Take N2-Guard on cycle to support for not only your liver but literally your ENTIRE body health! Including receptor health (Increased utilization of hormone) Joint Health and a ton of other benefits. (Used N2-Guard as my stand-alone with Epi and experience no joint discomfort or dryness what so ever)
-Eat a sufficient amount of calories and since your looking to bulk (I would aim for 3500-4000), keep carbs somewhat high with protein.
-Give each body part sufficient rest as well, depending on how hard you are training once every 5-7 days is adequate for most. (I need 8)
-Have a Post-Cycle ready BEFORE you start Helladrol, Depending on your budget you can run HCGenerate on cycle to prevent shutdown (meaning your body stops producing it's own testosterone) I recommend D-Aspartic Acid if your on a budget. Stuff works so great for how little it costs!

Don'ts
-Do not drink alcohol, it will place an unnecessary extra amount of stress on your liver that is trying to already absorb Helladrol. It's better to be safe if your in this for the long run!
-Do not think that just "upping the dosage" is going to give you better results because if anything it will shut you down faster and give you more side effects, Play around with a dosage that is "comfortable" and yields steady results. (which will also be depicted by training efforts and food intake)
-(Here's a mistake my co-worker made) Do not stop 2-3 weeks into a cycle and go cold turkey no PCT, you could experience estrogen rebound and possible gynecomastia or "Bitch tits" which you probably do not want. If your going to stop early still use a proper PCT to ensure your natural levels are returned to normal.
-Do not half ass your training going into PCT, even though you want to control rising cortisol levels with vitamin c in post cycle. Keep your training intensity up along with your food intake. If you don't you could experience a loss of your gains that you worked so hard to get!
-This is about the same as one mentioned but USE, DON'T ABUSE! One thing i found out while using a PH is that if you are not growing while on a Hormone/DS then your training intensity/Food intake or recovery is NOT adequate. I mean think about it, your putting your body in a higher state of anabolism meaning it should be "easier" to grow and get stronger. I used it as a "tool" to understand BETTER ways to train and when you have that you understand your body better, with that comes better results! I believe that is the difference between average results and AMAZING results.

You can do it man, just remember to stay consistent and driven, you will get what you want.

 

[gymrat827]

Smart move man, gathering knowledge is the BEST thing you can do!

Do's
-Drink plenty of water (1 Gallon Minimum)
-Train with high intensity
-Take Helladrol doses 6-8 hours apart for even distribution on hormone
-Take N2-Guard on cycle to support for not only your liver but literally your ENTIRE body health! Including receptor health (Increased utilization of hormone) Joint Health and a ton of other benefits. (Used N2-Guard as my stand-alone with Epi and experience no joint discomfort or dryness what so ever)
-Eat a sufficient amount of calories and since your looking to bulk (I would aim for 3500-4000), keep carbs somewhat high with protein.
-Give each body part sufficient rest as well, depending on how hard you are training once every 5-7 days is adequate for most. (I need 8)
-Have a Post-Cycle ready BEFORE you start Helladrol, Depending on your budget you can run HCGenerate on cycle to prevent shutdown (meaning your body stops producing it's own testosterone) I recommend D-Aspartic Acid if your on a budget. Stuff works so great for how little it costs!

Don'ts
-Do not drink alcohol, it will place an unnecessary extra amount of stress on your liver that is trying to already absorb Helladrol. It's better to be safe if your in this for the long run!
-Do not think that just "upping the dosage" is going to give you better results because if anything it will shut you down faster and give you more side effects, Play around with a dosage that is "comfortable" and yields steady results. (which will also be depicted by training efforts and food intake)
-(Here's a mistake my co-worker made) Do not stop 2-3 weeks into a cycle and go cold turkey no PCT, you could experience estrogen rebound and possible gynecomastia or "Bitch tits" which you probably do not want. If your going to stop early still use a proper PCT to ensure your natural levels are returned to normal.
-Do not half ass your training going into PCT, even though you want to control rising cortisol levels with vitamin c in post cycle. Keep your training intensity up along with your food intake. If you don't you could experience a loss of your gains that you worked so hard to get!
-This is about the same as one mentioned but USE, DON'T ABUSE! One thing i found out while using a PH is that if you are not growing while on a Hormone/DS then your training intensity/Food intake or recovery is NOT adequate. I mean think about it, your putting your body in a higher state of anabolism meaning it should be "easier" to grow and get stronger. I used it as a "tool" to understand BETTER ways to train and when you have that you understand your body better, with that comes better results! I believe that is the difference between average results and AMAZING results.

You can do it man, just remember to stay consistent and driven, you will get what you want.

spot on..

 

[Methodology]

Quick Question on working muscle groups? I do endurance/strength circuit training(2-3 days/week), about 30 mini-workouts (15*2) over the course of 1h, in medium>high>low>medium intensity circuit sets, initially this works the majority of my upper body muscles, it doesn't work anything into overdrive, and with the stretches and yoga I do after my odd day workout(2-3 days/week), I'm rarely ever sore... At most I would give myself a day and get back at her, and I haven't ever (I've done this for several years) had a problem doing so, as well going up weight significantly without having any injuries...

My question is: Is is really necessary, on Helladrol, for me to give myself this very long period of time for resting my muscles, I know there is going to be a great increase in muscle mass, but if my muscles feel ready, would it be okay to do so?

 

[HITdeathangel]

it can be necessary, remember any slight change in the volume of muscle increase to the body, the entire body has to change and adapt to it and i mean everything all your organs, blood volume, hormones everything. its not just something that happens overnight it is a life changing biological change on the body,
heck i train each bodypart once a month with one set atm.

 

[gymrat827]

Quick Question on working muscle groups? I do endurance/strength circuit training(2-3 days/week), about 30 mini-workouts (15*2) over the course of 1h, in medium>high>low>medium intensity circuit sets, initially this works the majority of my upper body muscles, it doesn't work anything into overdrive, and with the stretches and yoga I do after my odd day workout(2-3 days/week), I'm rarely ever sore... At most I would give myself a day and get back at her, and I haven't ever (I've done this for several years) had a problem doing so, as well going up weight significantly without having any injuries...

My question is: Is is really necessary, on Helladrol, for me to give myself this very long period of time for resting my muscles, I know there is going to be a great increase in muscle mass, but if my muscles feel ready, would it be okay to do so?

while on hella you will be able to do more sets and workout more often. So you can add volume and maybe even another training day to your routine.


once coming off the hella give yourself more rest as you wont recover as fast.

 

[Methodology]

That's kinda what I wanted to hear (would adding a 3rd/4th set be too much lol)... I went up 20lbs in the last 3 months, and I'm going to be bulking for the next 2 months, so if all goes right, I should be around 200lbs in July... I'm probably gonna be using this to cut weight, and hopefully get back to 2% BMI again.

 

[Methodology]

Is the Forged Post Cycle good? I was kinda hoping to get all the stuff in the same place, and was only gonna order HCGenerate if they ever got any Gear in stock

 

[69Stanger]

Good write up Beast, I've been looking into Helladrol for awhile.

 

[BeastinTheEast]

Is the Forged Post Cycle good? I was kinda hoping to get all the stuff in the same place, and was only gonna order HCGenerate if they ever got any Gear in stock

It is EXCELLENT, You have multiple clinically verified natural test boosters/libido support, Estrogen control PLUS cortisol control (which is a big issue most do not address in PCT) They should have some in stock, i can P'M you a discount code as well man. I'll take care of ya

Good write up Beast, I've been looking into Helladrol for awhile.

Hey no problem! If you have any Q's feel free to ask. Had a goofy week that's why i wasn't chiming back in here earlier. It's a solid product that yields great results without the harsh sides of S-Drol. Some people even stack Katanadrol with it for extra lean mass gain and SHREDDING fat. Hope this helps anyone else out looking to try it!

 

[nerdalert]

Solid advice Beast.... Hella is awesome, if you take the advice that you have been given then you should see some nice results.

 

[Methodology]

Thank you the advice/coupon , I have a hard time sleeping now lol

 

[69Stanger]

Hey no problem! If you have any Q's feel free to ask. Had a goofy week that's why i wasn't chiming back in here earlier. It's a solid product that yields great results without the harsh sides of S-Drol. Some people even stack Katanadrol with it for extra lean mass gain and SHREDDING fat. Hope this helps anyone else out looking to try it!

Thanks bro I'll more than likely have to hit you up at some point. Right now I'm getting everything together for a proper cycle and PCT I'm looking to start in about 3/4 weeks if everything goes as planned.

 

[Methodology]

More Questions? How long would you recommend cycling Helladrol? Could I go six weeks, or would you recommend doing 4? And as well, if I cycled for an extra 2 weeks, would I just extend the PCT?

Oh, and would it be okay if I still took N.O. Explode Caffeine Free, or should I just take a break from it, till end cycle?

 

[MMA732]

Smart move man, gathering knowledge is the BEST thing you can do!

Do's
-Drink plenty of water (1 Gallon Minimum)
-Train with high intensity
-Take Helladrol doses 6-8 hours apart for even distribution on hormone
-Take N2-Guard on cycle to support for not only your liver but literally your ENTIRE body health! Including receptor health (Increased utilization of hormone) Joint Health and a ton of other benefits. (Used N2-Guard as my stand-alone with Epi and experience no joint discomfort or dryness what so ever)
-Eat a sufficient amount of calories and since your looking to bulk (I would aim for 3500-4000), keep carbs somewhat high with protein.
-Give each body part sufficient rest as well, depending on how hard you are training once every 5-7 days is adequate for most. (I need 8)
-Have a Post-Cycle ready BEFORE you start Helladrol, Depending on your budget you can run HCGenerate on cycle to prevent shutdown (meaning your body stops producing it's own testosterone) I recommend D-Aspartic Acid if your on a budget. Stuff works so great for how little it costs!

Don'ts
-Do not drink alcohol, it will place an unnecessary extra amount of stress on your liver that is trying to already absorb Helladrol. It's better to be safe if your in this for the long run!
-Do not think that just "upping the dosage" is going to give you better results because if anything it will shut you down faster and give you more side effects, Play around with a dosage that is "comfortable" and yields steady results. (which will also be depicted by training efforts and food intake)
-(Here's a mistake my co-worker made) Do not stop 2-3 weeks into a cycle and go cold turkey no post cycle therapy (pct), you could experience estrogen rebound and possible gynecomastia or "Bitch tits" which you probably do not want. If your going to stop early still use a proper post cycle therapy (pct) to ensure your natural levels are returned to normal.
-Do not half ass your training going into post cycle therapy (pct), even though you want to control rising cortisol levels with vitamin c in post cycle. Keep your training intensity up along with your food intake. If you don't you could experience a loss of your gains that you worked so hard to get!
-This is about the same as one mentioned but USE, DON'T ABUSE! One thing i found out while using a PH is that if you are not growing while on a Hormone/DS then your training intensity/Food intake or recovery is NOT adequate. I mean think about it, your putting your body in a higher state of anabolism meaning it should be "easier" to grow and get stronger. I used it as a "tool" to understand BETTER ways to train and when you have that you understand your body better, with that comes better results! I believe that is the difference between average results and AMAZING results.

You can do it man, just remember to stay consistent and driven, you will get what you want.

NICE bro

 

[HoldtheRope]

this is my first ph cycle. im 6'4 240, 25 yr old, and have worked out a long time (ex-college football player) i ordered the helladrol starter stack from mr supps. i started yesterday and took 50mg but now i'll run 75 for 4 weeks then 2 weeks at 100. the stack comes with forged liver support for 30 days and i also got organ shield for when that runs out. i'm going to continue to take milk thistle as well. for pct i'm gonna use the forma stanzol and forged post cycle that comes with the stack. i also ordered torem to run at 90/60/60/30 or 90/60/30/30 and going to order daa. i also am thinking about ordering erase but do u think that is necessary. if i take all these, will any of these counteract my gains or anything? i just dont want to do anything to screw up my body but want to take advantage of the possibility of gains. i eat fairly well and supplement with fish oil, orange triad, whey, and creatine on an everyday basis. any tips/suggestions

 

[Boosted_G]

Bump for great tips posted from BeastinTheEast...

 

[Fresh2death]

Way to revive an old ass thread but yeah, he did offer some very good tips

 

[TheDarkHalf]

Yeah great stuff from BeastInTheEast! Helladrol is a great for a first timer

 

[_ANTON_]

I'm going to revive it again. Definitely appreciate the good info here. I Have a question regarding duration of post cycle therapy (pct) after cycle. Recommended cycle looks like 4 weeks but many here say 6 is best.

Product recommends:

Weeks

1 - 4 Helladrol
1 - 4 Forged liver sopport
4 - 8 Forged Post Cycle
4 - 10 Forma stanzol

Does this mean that if my helladrol cycle is 6 weeks, my stack should look like this?

1-6 Helladrol
1-6 Forged liver support
6-12 Forged post cycle
6-14 Forma Stanzol

I just takes on two weeks to each.