Help a brotha with high estro out!

[jomamma007]

Hey guys, just got bloods back from the following protocol

50mgs monday am
50mgs thursday pm
hcg 250iu MWF
50mgzinc/4mgcopper/10kvit d3 daily

total test-976
estradiol-40.9(7-42.6)

I'm fairly young and lean so I just tend to aromatise heavily, as I've always known this.

definitely felt high estro symptoms starting to creep up after about 2.5-3 weeks on this dose. After a week straight of crying over love songs, I figured I need to adjust my protocol. I'm wondering what a good starting point for arimidex is.

I don't want to crush my estro so I'm thinking maybe .25mgs twice per week, day after injection would be a good starting point, but not sure if .5mgs would be better. Should I try lowering my dose to say 80mgs per week to avoid the use of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) altogether? I feel like either way I will need one to be in that 20-25 range to be honest. Any helps is appreciated, thanks

 

[Mprtz]

I would definitely start at .25mg in your situation.

 

[Austinite]

I would not use arimidex. The goal should be to get rid of arimidex use. Your Estradiol is in range. Once it's in range, you can use DIM to lower it. I would also drop your copper dose to a maximum of 3mg.

DIM 200mg
Copper 2-3mg
Zinc 50mg

That is a perfect recipe for in-range or slightly above range estrogen. You need toy get sensitive or ultrasensitive E2 assays. Not just basic estradiol, that's for women.

 

[jomamma007]

I was already supplementing with zinc and copper, do you think just adding DIM will make a big enough difference??

 

[Austinite]

I was already supplementing with zinc and copper, do you think just adding DIM will make a big enough difference??

DIM will make the biggest difference of all 3 compounds. Zinc and copper merely support DIM.

You don't want a big difference anyway.

 

[jomamma007]

Well it wasn't a sensitive test so it`s hard to say where i`m really at.

But blood work aside i had multiple high estrogen symptoms:
overly emotional, aggravated pre existing gyno, poor sleep, anxiety, shaky libido, and water retention so i feel like i do need to get that number down a bit.

And like megatron said it wasn't at my peak necessarily as i had blood work done Monday which is the lowest i get for the week. Definitely on days i take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) my estrogen is over the ranges and test peaks...

 

[Megatron28]

Well it wasn't a sensitive test so it`s hard to say where i`m really at.

But blood work aside i had multiple high estrogen symptoms:
overly emotional, aggravated pre existing gyno, poor sleep, anxiety, shaky libido, and water retention so i feel like i do need to get that number down a bit.

And like megatron said it wasn't at my peak necessarily as i had blood work done Monday which is the lowest i get for the week. Definitely on days i take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) my estrogen is over the ranges and test peaks...

Spend the ~$60 and get the sensitive E2 lab run. Use Private MD - Buy Lab Tests Online

 

[jomamma007]

it's not the money,my doc will run a full panel no issue.

The problem is that I've switched my dosage to 80mgs per week these last two weeks to lower my estrogen, and it did for sure but I don't feel as good so I'd rather go back up to 100mgs per week. The problem is I have to do this dosage for 3-4 weeks now before I get labs, in which I'll get a full panel.

That's why i was asking about arimidex because I was going to start with it this time since I know I had the sides, but I guess I'll go without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for a month at 100mgs again so I can get a full baseline blood panel and take it from there. Hopefully sides won't be as bad as I'll be taking DIM this time.

 

[Spunkey71]

DIM will make the biggest difference of all 3 compounds. Zinc and copper merely support DIM.

You don't want a big difference anyway.

Austinite,

What dosage do you recommend for DIM? Are there different types and a suggested method of taking it like B12?