Help - Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) CONTEST - PROVE TO ME I SHOULD TRUST YOU WITH MY HEALTH!

[SmasheduP]

Help - HRT CONTEST - PROVE TO ME I SHOULD TRUST YOU WITH MY HEALTH!

Hey guys, I figured I would try to make this a fun way to learn as much as possible as well as trying to meet some knowledgeable guys here.

I have a 10 year history with steroid use, for a few years VERY heavy use.

I had a period where I was up and at over 4 combined grams weekly. Not smart I know, but it was fun while it lasted (DON"T DO IT). Anyway, it was wreckless and I am paying dearly, for the past 4 years I have tried many methods of restarting / post cycle therapy (pct) / Cycles etc whatever, just to feel good again.

I have narrowed down the mood and energy level as well as sex drive problems to low test, I have been tested with low test by at least 5 doctors, and none will help.

I NEED HELP FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WTF THEY ARE DOING!

Natural Test Levels were 201 - Can 't seem to find a doc willing to do other hormone tests on me. I am Canadian. Help me please.

I am just going through a divorce, and a lot of stuff right now and I have every classic symptom of low test. I cannot get erections, I have no energy, no motivation, no "MOJO" I used to be a mojo mofo, I lived my life on the fact I would get through everything with sheer will and hard work. . now I can't get off the couch. I have tried everything, my diet is amazing, I get as much exersize as I can.

My joints hurt. I am tired, I am cloudy, I am depressed, I don't even have the urge to jerk off lol. I have lost weight, Body composition sucks balls.

I have access to whatever I need, however am not a source by any means.

I need to feel better, I can't do this anymore. My lifelong passion since the age of 15 has been lifting weights, now I don't even care enough to get off the couch.

I want to hear any ones thoughts, questions, advice and opinions on this. I know there are many threads, but I would like to tailor this one to my self and apply it. I will glady choose someone's plan I feel confidient with and go for it. I am open to suggestions and other idea's I don't already have if I'm off on my quest in the wrong direction.


I cannot handle feeling this way anymore, so I am going to start test prop 100mg/day to hopefully get me at least feeling ok, I am fine with not getting laid at all for a while I just want to feel ok, ya know?

I also have 5000 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on the way.

I should also mention, the cycle that seemed to kick this all off over three years ago was - 700mg week test 700 mg/wk tren. I followed a 6 month 2.5g test cycle with 400mg/wk tren enth with a two month break. . before that I was all over the place with gear use, but regular post cycle therapy (pct) and breaks were enough to get me started again. . now. . not so much.

HELP! Thanks! If I feel anyone is confident enough to persuade me into using them as a board sponsor or whatever I am open to that too, I'd give my left nut if my right one would start working!

M

 

[Megatron28]

How about proving to us that you are worth helping first rather than throwing down the gauntlet!

 

[totalburnout]

You're going to find that a standard TRT protocol looks something like this...

100-200mg Test Cyp per week. Some people break it into 2 shots, some only do one shot.
Anastrozole
hcG. (200-600mg per week)

Total Test ranges are generally in the 600-1200 range.
Monitor e2/estradiol
Monitor free T/bio available

Dosage varies, frequency of shots, and whether or not people are using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or AI's. If you don't foresee having children in the future and don't care about testicular fatigue, there's really not much reason in using hCG.

If you want to try a restart, people are using clomid or hcg.

 

[3J]

regardless of how you are approaching this.. why are you running prop?? what you wanna jump back to 4g a week?? or even 1g a week??

run a normal Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) dose of 200mg a week test c and feel normal again..

 

[SmasheduP]

I can only do so with time. . .

How about proving to us that you are worth helping first rather than throwing down the gauntlet!

Megatron - I realize I just threw down a tall order. I have been online on forums 'since 97 under different names so I forget my reputation doesn't matter anymore. I am happy to give back all I can with advice etc, I just wanted to see who would reply as I am considering going with one of the board sponsors. . I heard there's a guy called Chip on here that knows his shit?? Be cool to get a few theories before I try to do this thing.


The reason I have prop around is cause I brew my own stuff, and it's just what I have right now. I can easily save up and get some Test Cyp if that's best!

I have always found Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to help my libido erections etc, so I just thought that was the point of it, if I simply replaced my endo test with 150 test cyp split into two doses, I would eventually just start to feel back to normal? That's what I"mn really wondering, cause I feel shut the fuck down right now. . still after all this time.

Thanks for the post Mega

 

[SmasheduP]

re-post

 

[SmasheduP]

You're going to find that a standard testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol looks something like this...

100-200mg Test Cyp per week. Some people break it into 2 shots, some only do one shot.
Anastrozole
hcG. (200-600mg per week)

Total Test ranges are generally in the 600-1200 range.
Monitor e2/estradiol
Monitor free T/bio available

Dosage varies, frequency of shots, and whether or not people are using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or AI's. If you don't foresee having children in the future and don't care about testicular fatigue, there's really not much reason in using hCG.

If you want to try a restart, people are using clomid or hcg.

Ok so how does one go about figuring out what works best for my mood and sex drive? 100-200 is a large range, start low untill I start to feel normal and my dick starts working and then work up 'till I start seeing elevated E2/estradiol? Or is there a free test/ total test leve range that I"m aiming for?

How does one take the anastrazole, dosage? frequency?

I'm not sure whether I wanna have kids or not, so with all of the above stuff, would I take say 300iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the morning of shot days? (I had heard that somewhere else)

For a restart how would one run the clomid or hcg?

Thank you for all the great info, and answers! I appreciate it greatly.

M

 

[SmasheduP]

regardless of how you are approaching this.. why are you running prop?? what you wanna jump back to 4g a week?? or even 1g a week??

run a normal Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) dose of 200mg a week test c and feel normal again..

I am running prop currently cause I have a lot laying around and I just want to feel ok as fast as possible. I can use any other compound, and by the looks of things I"ll be ordering some cyp. Because the doctors in my country are a bunch of pussies I can't get a prescription. Regardless of how hard I have tried I can't find a decent fuckin doctor in Canada who has any knowledge. When I was at my peak of knowledge on this subject I finally got into a specialist and he said I was fine having test levels of 201. . at 28 years of age. Time to give up on finding a good doc and to do this myself.

I actually had considered running a 500mg/wk test prop cycle for 8 weeks and then doing a restart, I want to get my ass back in shape on top of all of this.

I had been so big and stuff in the past I sit at around 210lbs at around 20% bf. . would be cool to be 210lbs at 12% bf or better. . .

I will never take huge dosages again, it was foolish.

 

[3J]

can you easily get bloodwork done or is that a pain?.. are you close to the border in america?

 

[SmasheduP]

can you easily get bloodwork done or is that a pain?.. are you close to the border in america?

Actually yes, bloodwork in the us would be possible. I live straight north of fargo basically. . .

 

[SmasheduP]

I gues grand forks is the first real city as close to where I live as possible, in the us you just walk in and pay for blood work or what? That'd be awesome, taken me years of work to get decent bloodwork.

 

[3J]

Privatemdlabs.com is your answer. Run cyp at 200mg for 3 weeks and check your levels. Order the female hormone panel it's cheaper.

 

[SmasheduP]

Fack, I have to drive 500 miles to the closest lab that's part of their network. Would it be more wise to level off for a couple months and save me a test ,or is the three week timing important? Thanks.

 

[3J]

I would give it 8 weeks then. There is a worry about your blood becoming too thick which is easily treatable by giving blood.

 

[SmasheduP]

I would give it 8 weeks then. There is a worry about your blood becoming too thick which is easily treatable by giving blood.

So no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? I thought that was required with long term test? Sorry if I am confused, this seems to be a topic of debate even? Anyone have an opinion? Thanks guys.

 

[3J]

From the looks of it your on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for life. But i see u wanna have kids so yea run 500iu weekly.

 

[SmasheduP]

Ok so I gues what I'm wondering is, should my sex drive and ability level out at some point? I can screw like a porn star usually. . lately. . can't even get it up. . is that just something that comes in time? Even when on?

M

 

[3J]

Ok so I gues what I'm wondering is, should my sex drive and ability level out at some point? I can screw like a porn star usually. . lately. . can't even get it up. . is that just something that comes in time? Even when on?

M

it will take some time a blood work to bring your test levels around 600-1000 (normal range) and your estrogen under 50... at that point if your still having issues we need to check shbg and dht levels...

 

[SmasheduP]

I may do that on the first test as well, I'll have to add a combo pack on that blood test package website that includes those things. I have a feeling every thing is pretty fucked. Would it be worth while to have that tested on the first round of tests in approx 8 weeks? I brew only for myself and my MOQ for cyp is enough for 10 years lol. My lab rat should be happy about that.

So I'll level out for 8 weeks, and get the tests you have recommended, probably plus shbg and dht. ..

 

[3J]

doesn't sound like a bad idea at all.. what do you have as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on board?

I may do that on the first test as well, I'll have to add a combo pack on that blood test package website that includes those things. I have a feeling every thing is pretty fucked. Would it be worth while to have that tested on the first round of tests in approx 8 weeks? I brew only for myself and my MOQ for cyp is enough for 10 years lol. My lab rat should be happy about that.

So I'll level out for 8 weeks, and get the tests you have recommended, probably plus shbg and dht. ..