Help me evaluate my cycle....I made a mistake so I will pay attention

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NativeTX

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My last cycle was 600mg of TestE and 600mg of Deca per week. I got from information from several sites that this would be a good cycle. I had never gone above 400mg on anything. Unfortunately, this cycle shut me down hard even after post cycle therapy (pct) (HCG and nolvadex). Never had a problem before. I will not be using deca in my next cycle as I now know it shuts you down harder than any other gear, other than Anadrol. And, I was taking too much.

So, my next cycle is Test only:

Week 1 &2 : Enanthate 150mg and Propianate 100mg = (250mg)
Week 3: Cypionate 200mg/Enanthate 150mg/Propianate 100mg = (450mg)
Week 4 -7: Cypionate 200mg/Enanthate 300mg = (500mg)
Week 8: Cypionate 200mg/Enanthate 300mg = (500mg)
Week 9 -12: Cypionate 200mg/Enanthate 150mg/Propianate 100mg = (450mg)
Week 12-15: Enanthate 300mg/100mg Propianate = (400mg)

The goal is a Test only cyle with medium to very meduim test level and to be able to cyle off quickly. Trying to keep test levels the same after first 2 weeks with what I have and the mg level. Test E is at 300mg. Cyp is 200 and prop is 100.

I plan to start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2 weeks after last injection, and I have nolvadex to go along with the HCG.

Please advise.....

Also, I have some Adex, and I have the ability to get more, but it's very expensive.

Thanks and let me know your thoughts...
 
Metalhead said:
Why are you using 3 different tests? Just out of curiosity. Ive Never seen that
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2 reasons: It's what I have on hand, and this is almost like taking a sustanon which has 3 different tests of different esters. My question was to whether I have the lonng esters and short esters placed correctly in the timing of my cycle.
 
NativeTX said:
My last cycle was 600mg of TestE and 600mg of Deca per week. I got from information from several sites that this would be a good cycle. I had never gone above 400mg on anything. Unfortunately, this cycle shut me down hard even after PCT (HCG and nolvadex). Never had a problem before. I will not be using deca in my next cycle as I now know it shuts you down harder than any other gear, other than Anadrol. And, I was taking too much.

So, my next cycle is Test only:

Week 1 &2 : Enanthate 150mg and Propianate 100mg = (250mg)
Week 3: Cypionate 200mg/Enanthate 150mg/Propianate 100mg = (450mg)
Week 4 -7: Cypionate 200mg/Enanthate 300mg = (500mg)
Week 8: Cypionate 200mg/Enanthate 300mg = (500mg)
Week 9 -12: Cypionate 200mg/Enanthate 150mg/Propianate 100mg = (450mg)
Week 12-15: Enanthate 300mg/100mg Propianate = (400mg)

The goal is a Test only cyle with medium to very meduim test level and to be able to cyle off quickly. Trying to keep test levels the same after first 2 weeks with what I have and the mg level. Test E is at 300mg. Cyp is 200 and prop is 100.

I plan to start Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2 weeks after last injection, and I have nolvadex to go along with the HCG.

Please advise.....

Also, I have some Adex, and I have the ability to get more, but it's very expensive.

Thanks and let me know your thoughts...
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Honestly dude. Check my thread before you do this cycle. Keep it simple man. Lots of good info in my post.

Title: "My 1st steroid cycle. Testosterone Enanthate Aromasin & Nolvadex" listed currently in the same forum as this.

Good luck.
 
im not a fan of sustanon to begin with . complicated does NOT = better . pick a test and stick with it . the exception being cyp or eth since they are so close they are pretty much interchangeable.
 
If your going to run enth cyp and prop. And you really want to run that. Why not just use T-300? Got all 3 in it.
 
Redline4 said:
Why are you running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for PCT instead of during your cycle?
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ggod catch , i missed it . he should end the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) a few days before starting pct and imo he should also add 50 mg of clomid a day to pct.
 
Thanks for all the feedback. I had the TestE prior to and the Cyp was prescribed. So, I only have access to 10cc at 250mg per cc. I got the Propionate, becasue the guy I got the Deca from said that I could swap out my Deca for some Prop and the Prop would kick in and get my cyle started faster, but it's only 100mg. Like I said, I am staying off Deca right now. So, I am trying to keep my mg at 400-500 per week.

I could just run Test E and Propionate and wait until next time I see the doc to get another vial of Cyiponate to run 2CC of Cyionat a week. Would that be better. Also, I do not have access to chlomid.
 
DADAWG said:
ggod catch , i missed it . he should end the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) a few days before starting post cycle therapy (pct) and imo he should also add 50 mg of clomid a day to post cycle therapy (pct).
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I've always been told by friends and docs to start running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) about 2-3 weeks after a cylce and not during, but I have read several posts on here, including the sticky on post cycle therapy (pct), saying that it should be run during. That's the way I've always done it, and it's always worked excpet for my last cycle which was heavier and very heavy on decs. So, I am trying to get more information and advice one that while I am researching the osts on here.
 
dj2dirk41 said:
Did your natural test ever come back
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I am only going by observation about my sex drive, energy, work outs and mood, but it has come back and is still getting better. The Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) kicked it back in and was going well. When I discontinued the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I felt it drop off, but it has slowly been coming back. Each day seems to be better that the day before.
 
NativeTX said:
I've always been told by friends and docs to start running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) about 2-3 weeks after a cylce and not during, but I have read several posts on here, including the sticky on post cycle therapy (pct), saying that it should be run during. That's the way I've always done it, and it's always worked excpet for my last cycle which was heavier and very heavy on decs. So, I am trying to get more information and advice one that while I am researching the osts on here.
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I can't speak directly from experience because I've never used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct). However, adding it DURING my cycle made a huge difference in my recovery post cycle. All the info regarding using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for post cycle therapy (pct) seems to be negative and can actually hinder your recovery. Like dadawg said, finish up the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) around 3 days before starting post cycle therapy (pct) and add some Clomid in if you can handle the sides.
 
Maybe I missed it but did you recover well from last cycle? I'm planning on going with Deca next time....not 600 mg/wk though. Gotta find a healthy balance.
 
hCG should not be used during post cycle therapy (pct). It can be used during cycle to prevent testicular atrophy. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is suppressive of natural testosterone, because it takes the place of Leutenizing hormone (LH). LH is not the first step in the chain, instead its manufactured in the pituitary under the response of gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH) secreted from the hypothalamus. Since a LH mimicking agent is supplied exogenously the negative feedback signal to the hypothalamus will tell it to stop making GnRH, so no natural LH is produced. Thats why we use a potent estrogen receptor antagonist nolvadex. When Androgen levels drop these antagonists lower estrogenic response creating a steroid defecit that signals the hypothalamus to start making GnRH. If Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is used it should be discontinued 2 weeks before Nolva or Clomid or it will suppress natural test..
 
Dr. Hiney, are you actually a Doctor? Just asking because after I discontinue the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), I cratered again. I read several posts by people who were completely shut down that their Doctor prescribed 2500mg Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EOD for 2 weeks and clomid. I spoke to my DR today, and that's exactly what they prescribed
 
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