Help needed with Anavar.

[welshlaf]

or would HCG, or Nolvadex be better?

 

[Mavaleu]

or would HCG, or Nolvadex be better?

HCG also needs to be injected so you can count that out.

 

[mlupi319]

If you refuse to inject I suggest this stack- Ostarine (Mk-2866) + Gw-501516 + DAA + Aromasin

 

[Misc]

Yes it would do damage. Possibly permanent damage. Take dawgs advice bro.

Also read the oral cycles sticky

lol you act like taking an Anavar (var) only is worse than taking test and Anavar (var) . yeah test should be the base of all cycles but hes going to do more damage to his body running test and Anavar (var) at the same time than just Anavar (var) alone. im not advocating oral only im just saying you dont need to scare him and spread misinformation to get him to do it properly.

 

[Misc]

you should run test with it. at a minimum run a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. the thing that nobody is saying is that because it shuts you down your lack of natty test is being made up for by he Anavar (var) . so its better to replace the lost natty test with exogenous test so that you get more out of the Anavar (var) .


also if you do run the Anavar (var) for cutting take it AFTER you do cardio. the pumps can be very intense where it can hinder your workout. its fine though when you lift.

 

[mlupi319]

lol you act like taking an Anavar (var) only is worse than taking test and Anavar (var) . yeah test should be the base of all cycles but hes going to do more damage to his body running test and Anavar (var) at the same time than just Anavar (var) alone. im not advocating oral only im just saying you dont need to scare him and spread misinformation to get him to do it properly.

Can you explain that? how is taking test going to damage his body?...especially near a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose I don't see how it would be anything except beneficial?

 

[anewguy]

I'm not making thugs up to scare him. You said yourself that orals shut you down without anything to replace your test. I'm not sure how you are not connecting the dots here.

 

[Misc]

Can you explain that? how is taking test going to damage his body?...especially near a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose I don't see how it would be anything except beneficial?

im not saying that its going to damage your body. the dude was implying that if he did an oral only he wold potentially damage his body permanently. i was just saying test and Anavar (var) combined is worse than the just Anavar (var) cause your running two compounds instead of one. this is purely from a health perspective.

 

[Misc]

I'm not making thugs up to scare him. You said yourself that orals shut you down without anything to replace your test. I'm not sure how you are not connecting the dots here.

you said there was potential perm damage by doing oral only and implied that test with Anavar (var) was safer. test will shut you down much harder than just Anavar (var) alone. if anything test is worse since it will shut your hpta down harder and faster than just Anavar (var) thus increasing the chance of perm damage by not being able to restore hpta. the risk is small but its still there and its greater with test than Anavar (var) .

 

[welshlaf]

i have been told that taking clomid for 2-3 weeks afer a cycle of Anavar (var) will restore my testosterone levels to normal.

is this correct?

if it is i think i will try it out, as long as the side effects are not too bad.

Thoughts everyone?

cheers

 

[dsa8864667]

i have been told that taking clomid for 2-3 weeks afer a cycle of Anavar (var) will restore my testosterone levels to normal.

is this correct?

if it is i think i will try it out, as long as the side effects are not too bad.

Thoughts everyone?

cheers

Why even bother asking for advice if your going to be stubborn and do it your own way anyways.

 

[DADAWG]

Why even bother asking for advice if your going to be stubborn and do it your own way anyways.

newbies dont really want advice , they really just want someone to agree with them . they just ignore advice.
maybe the guy has a friend who hasnt shut down his test who can take care of his woman for him lol.

 

[DADAWG]

you said there was potential perm damage by doing oral only and implied that test with Anavar (var) was safer. test will shut you down much harder than just Anavar (var) alone. if anything test is worse since it will shut your hpta down harder and faster than just Anavar (var) thus increasing the chance of perm damage by not being able to restore hpta. the risk is small but its still there and its greater with test than Anavar (var) .

where do you come up with this shit lol. your either shut down or your not , the only difference is with stuff like tren or deca which can throw progesteron and prolactin out of whack and further delay recovery.

lets list natural occuring steroids in the body that make a man A MAN.

Anavar (var) = no
tren = no
eq=no
winstrol =no
TEST =YES

 

[fognozzle]

OP - Please use the search feature and do your research. As you have noticed, advise comes in all shapes and sizes,as well as levels of correctness. When you ask before you read, you have no basis by which to judge the advise given. Search the specific topic of interest and read the many many threads on said topic. Then you will get a sense for who to listen to and, more importantly, who not to listen to. Take no advise as Scripture but, look for consistency and take mental note of those that are obviously respected by others, mods, vets and very high post counts. In the end, YOU are responsible for you. This IS science but it is NOT exact science. User beware! Welcome and best of luck to you!

 

[Greens]

Why even bother asking for advice if your going to be stubborn and do it your own way anyways.

Exactly.

 

[Misc]

where do you come up with this shit lol. your either shut down or your not , the only difference is with stuff like tren or deca which can throw progesteron and prolactin out of whack and further delay recovery.

lets list natural occuring steroids in the body that make a man A MAN.

Anavar (var) = no
tren = no
eq=no
winstrol =no
TEST =YES

you act like your shut down over night. it takes time for hpta to fully shut down. Anavar (var) is a mild oral. test will shut you down faster than Anavar (var) will. again as i said before im not advocating oral only cycle.

i was responding to the post that implied

Anavar (var) only = dangerous and potential perm damage
test + Anavar (var) = safe

i don't get what your trying to tell me with the second part of your post about natty hormones...

 

[Misc]

where do you come up with this shit lol.

ill tell you and you tell me if im wrong.

the hypothalamus evaluates the amount of hormones in the body. if you have very high amount of exogenous test in the body it will evaluate that differently than taking just Anavar (var). the high amount of the test will cause the hypothalamus to produce less LHRH to the pituitary thus the pituitary creates less LH to stimulate test production. there for the test will shut you down faster.

even with being on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) my body still creates LH so there for my body is still producing some test. maybe not that much but that also means im not fully shut down.

 

[welshlaf]

Why even bother asking for advice if your going to be stubborn and do it your own way anyways.

I have taken peoples advice, i am not going to just run Anavar (var) on its own, i am going to do something about by geting the clomid.

i said in a previous post that i dont want to inject, so i did some research and found that clomid can increase your testosterone and return it to normal.

So if anyone has any advice regarding me using Anavar (var) first, then clomid after i would really appreciate it.

Cheers

 

[Roid The Lloyd]

Just man up and inject some test.

 

[CuriousNewb]

Juicing is not a hobby of myne, nor is bodybuilding... I stay in shape for athletics. This site is all about injectables....Many other forums dont have the "NEVER DO ORAL ONLY CYCLES"

Ive done 3.. nothings wrong wiht me and ive kept gains

I find this interesting. My understanding is that the main useful application of steroids is to build muscle faster than you can naturally, or to build more muscle than your body would naturally be able to support.
Now, if you compete at a high level of athletics, and you can beat the drug tests at those levels, sure it could possibly give you an advantage to run anavar or Winstrol (winny) for the strength benefits without the weight gain. However, my understanding is that those gains are pretty much only going to last as long as your cycle, and afterwards you're right back to where you started, plus you have a crashed HPTA. So, if its for a competition that is important to you, and again without testing, maybe that would be worth it.
However, I think what we might be talking about here is people using steroids to try to 'cut' or achieve the 'beach body' they want. You know, that general, crossfit type look and fitness level.
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, that what dawg and many others on this site are trying to say is that if that's what you're after, diet and exercise program design will get you there. steroids really just aren't THAT useful for this purpose.
So, hopefully what I'm saying here makes sense and the vets will agree with me. Steroids should be used to gain muscle faster than naturally possible. Using them to 'stay fit' or 'cut' or for 'athletics' has a very limited application, probably only for elite athletes.
Just thought I'd share what came to my mind when I read this post.