Help on my first cycle

[ejrm17]

i weigh 140p, 23 years old and i have been traning for a year properly. on and off 3 years. im very ripped and cut but wana gain some mass.

Gear:dbol25mg, deca300(2),and test enant250(3),HCG, clomid.

week 1 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 2ml test

week 2 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 2ml test

week 3 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 2ml test

week 4 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 2ml test

week 5 1.5ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 6 1.5ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 7 1.5ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 8 1.5ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 9 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 10 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 11 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 12 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 13 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 14 2ml test

week 15 2ml test

week 17 clomid therepy

Is this a proper cycle, im concerned about when to take HCG and if this cycle makes sense. help plzz thank.s

 

[cyto33]

first your only 23 your not done growing. but if you intend on doing a cycle this is what i would try. a short cycle. you wein yourself on and off. this is almost the same as my first at a much older age.


week 1 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 1ml test

week 2 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 1ml test

week 3 25mg dbol, 2ml deca, 1ml test clomid

week 4 25mg dbol, 2ml deca, 2ml test clomid


week 5 25mg dbol, 2ml deca, 2ml test clomid

week 6 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 1ml test clomid

week 7 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 1ml test clomid

week 8 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 1ml test clomid 1500uihcg

week 9/10 clomid/1500hcg

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

sorry dex but this is bad advice

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i weigh 140p, 23 years old and i have been traning for a year properly. on and off 3 years. im very ripped and cut but wana gain some mass.

Gear:dbol25mg, deca300(2),and test enant250(3),HCG, clomid.

week 1 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 2ml test

week 2 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 2ml test

week 3 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 2ml test

week 4 25mg dbol, 1ml deca, 2ml test

week 5 1.5ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 6 1.5ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 7 1.5ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 8 1.5ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 9 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 10 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 11 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 12 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 13 1ml deca, 2ml test 500iu hcg

week 14 2ml test

week 15 2ml test

week 17 clomid therepy

Is this a proper cycle, im concerned about when to take HCG and if this cycle makes sense. help plzz thank.s

you need to save the deca for another cycle-if you get gyno you will have no idea whether or not its prolactin-or estrogen gyno-these 2 need to be medicated differently.

on your first cycle you should always use only one compound-so you know where your getting effects-negative or positive-and you need to learn this valuable info about yourself for future cycles.

1-4 dbol 25mg ED-
1-14 test 500mg a week split your injections
2-16.5 HCG 250-500iu a week
17-20 clomid 50mg ed for 4 weeks

even this ^^^^ is too much for a first cycle-but you bought it and if you use it do it this way.

should keep it simple so you can concentrate on the effects-and your diet-especially on first cycle.

1-14 test @ 500mg a week-split injections
17-20 clomid 50mg ed for 4 weeks

^^^this is what you should do-and save the rest of your stuff for next cycle.

 

[cyto33]

i guess thats why i never got and side of gyno i started the clomid early in the cycle and the hcg i had high spread over the last few weeks. i still have not tested a cycle with out runing clomid with it. i should try one and start it on the last couple of weks.
good call newbie

 

[Ythrashin]

Also in the future when you you run DECA there is no need to taper the deca up and down. Just pick a dose and run with it.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

well clomid should not be used to treat gyno unless it is all you have-nolva is a better SERM for gyno-but you need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to lower the estrogen in your system that is causing the gyno.

never run a SERM during cycle except to treat gyno-although you should run and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) next to the SERM if you get gyno-when symptoms subside then you can discontinue the SERM and continue running the Aromatase inhibitor (AI). If you run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your cycle the chances of you getting gyno are slim.

 

[Ythrashin]

Yep newb is right an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is always the better choice to control estro during a cycle. All serms do is block the estro from attaching to receptors. AI's prevent the estro from being made.. They all do this in slighlty different ways tho...

Read up on Aromasin, armidex and letro.

 

[hogman]

1-14 test @ 500mg a week-split injections
17-20 clomid 50mg ed for 4 weeks

This is a great first cycle, you will make huge gains if you eat right and lift heavy. I ran 250mg a week of Sustanon (sust) for my first cycle and I gained 20lbs of muscle and kept most of it. Don't be stupid listen to Newbie and run this cycle. You will be happy with your results!

 

[ejrm17]

thanks guys a ? though
The deca i got is deca 300, shouldnt the deca dose be lower than the test dose?
sorry forgot to mention i have done a cycle before but its been strictly oral, Dbol/ test
And also for GYNO i have some femara which is used to treat breast cancer and helps best for gyno.
i want to include deca because i also herd that it helps when lifting heavy since it helps with the joints and recovery.../?
Also when is the best time to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), mid week or end?
thanks for all the help.. appriciate it

 

[ejrm17]

sorry dex but this is bad advice

thanks guys a ? though
The deca i got is deca 300, shouldnt the deca dose be lower than the test dose?
sorry forgot to mention i have done a cycle before but its been strictly oral, Dbol/ test
And also for GYNO i have some femara which is used to treat breast cancer and helps best for gyno.
i want to include deca because i also herd that it helps when lifting heavy since it helps with the joints and recovery.../?
Also when is the best time to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), mid week or end?
thanks for all the help.. appriciate it