help with deca 400mg in australia with cycle

[vult]

Have deca 400
started the cycle last week jabbed 1.5ml into shoulder it didn't hurt till the next day it was like someone corked me. it was radiating alot of heat and sensitive to touch couldn't even lift my arm. It's better after 4 days. The next one i did in my glute again 1.5ml and it's already tender..
why is this happening?
also its very hard to get out of bottle into needle and also very hard to inject

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

oh-man! let me guess-you are taking this alone?

 

[Biggin]

More than likely.

 

[bulldog28]

too much at one time

Your using 600mg every shot? Spilt this up if that’s the case. 300mg shots twice a week. Also, use 20gage pins to draw the juice and then switch to 21 gage pins to insert into your gluts.

 

[Biggin]

Deca needs to be ran with Test regardless, or this cat will definitely have issues, at least for a little while.

 

[I_feel_nothing]

yea, say goodbye to your hard penis for a while. Also 21 is a bit excessive, he could easily get away with 23s, i use 25 for everything but it does help considerably to heat everything a bit first.


edit* by everything i mean shooting everywhere and with every substance (oil based). I use a 23 to draw and 25 to shoot.

 

[bulldog28]

just do it

yea, say goodbye to your hard penis for a while. Also 21 is a bit excessive, he could easily get away with 23s, i use 25 for everything but it does help considerably to heat everything a bit first.

I agree. You can warm up the oil base and use a smaller gage pin, but if you work 10 hour days and carry your gear with you as I need too…..heating the juice is not an option. Endure the pain and welcome the results.

 

[bulldog28]

a base

Deca needs to be ran with Test regardless, or this cat will definitely have issues, at least for a little while.

you're so right Biggin, every cycle needs a base. Test is that base

 

[vult]

i was doing sus25o seperate
but tonight will mix them together and do it
should i heat the gear?

 

[Ythrashin]

Deca at 400mg a ml is going to have a high BA content.
If cutting it with test doesn't help with the pain try cutting it with some USP grapeseed oil.

When you "heat" the gear just fill up a cup with warm/hot water from your faucet and drop your vials in for a couple min or just run warm water over them.. It will make the oil thinner and be easier to draw into your syringe and will help with initial oil dispersant into the muscle. Also try massaging the site for a few minutes and using a heating pad, both will help the oil disperse. Take your time shooting the oil into your muscle. The slower you go the less invasive it is and allows the oil to disperse a bit while you're injecting.

You should be able to use a 23g or 25g to inject. If not you've got some very thick gear. All the gear I've used I could inject with a 23g without warming it up. I strictly use 25g or 23g to draw my oil out now so I dont tear up my rubber stoppers and end up with rubber chunks in my gear. Doesnt happen often, but I'm paranoid after sucking up a chunk and not noticing it till I was about to inject.

 

[vult]

i use 18 needles to suck it up and 23 to shoot
and it takes ages

 

[vult]

just done 1ml of sus250 and 1ml of deca400 in glute heated up deca was still hard to get in needle made sure i got all air bubbles out
and now have a heat pack on glute whilst massaging it hopefully this does the trick