heres my cycle but getting tired

[balboa270]

6' 240 32yo
w 1-4 /40 mg dbol 4x a day ed
w 1/5 Testoviron 1cc every three days
w 5/10 test prop 1cc eod may up a little
w 6/10 sustamed 1cc every 3 days
during .5 ldex
Pct. nolva

I'm in week two diet good could be better workouts 1hr 1/2 to 1hr varies
chest /arms day 1
legs/calves/traps day 2
shoulder/tri day 3
off day 4
getting very tired is estrogen problem? maybe layoff dex for a week or so then if persits bloodwork. Two weeks lots of power and noticable size dont want to mess to much with it any tips? Thank you guys

 

[supersafado]

You need to clarify your cycle. How many mg are you taking ed? 1cc tells us nothing

 

[balboa270]

You need to clarify your cycle. How many mg are you taking ed? 1cc tells us nothing

Testrovine 500mg a week
test prop 500 mg a week
sust 250 mg a week

 

[KaiserSose]

The dbol you said 40mg 4x a day im assuming you meant 40 mg total for the day, I hope, how often are you running the adex @. 5

 

[Shovel]

Dbol does this to a lot of guys. It's possible your diet is more protein than carbs(energy), so thats normal too. Probably more Aromatase inhibitor (AI) than you need, but everybody's different and only you can find that sweet spot.

 

[ErectusMaximus]

The dbol you said 40mg 4x a day im assuming you meant 40 mg total for the day, I hope, how often are you running the adex @. 5

LOl yeah this could be the problem!

 

[balboa270]

The dbol you said 40mg 4x a day im assuming you meant 40 mg total for the day, I hope, how often are you running the adex @. 5

yes its 40mg total for day jesus christ
adex every other day. the reason for this is I retain water like a bitch no matter what Im on. I'm going to play with the dbol maybe 10 mg in morning and 30 mg a hour and half before workout I'm not so sure im buying the spread throughout day thing on those bastards Thanks for the input though guys.

 

[balboa270]

Dbol does this to a lot of guys. It's possible your diet is more protein than carbs(energy), so thats normal too. Probably more Aromatase inhibitor (AI) than you need, but everybody's different and only you can find that sweet spot.

Thank you I was actually re-valuating my diet and I was thinking more carbs just while on the dbol then cutting back to my diet now thank you

 

[KaiserSose]

I know guys who takd them all before workout and have good results its not proven to better to spread them out just a theory, and yes dbol does make some people feel lethargic

 

[balboa270]

I know guys who takd them all before workout and have good results its not proven to better to spread them out just a theory, and yes dbol does make some people feel lethargic

Thankks I will let ya know how may reminder on the dbol works out

 

[balboa270]

UDCA good for liver care ( Ursodeoxycholic acid)? What are best liver protectors and cleansers besides liv-52 which is what I have?

 

[balboa270]

one more thing if loose stool for two weeks probably to high protein diet as well?

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Milk thistle is nice for liver, and I hear arimidex gives you the runs but i never had a prob

 

[balboa270]

Milk thistle is nice for liver, and I hear arimidex gives you the runs but i never had a prob

so oct milk thistle? I use that with creatine, what about what I asked that to harsh on liver?

 

[ErectusMaximus]

I'm saying milk thistle is for liver protection and that I heard arimidex may give you the shits. There is another liver protectant I know of but cannot remember.... Pear Guava extract ???? IDK try looking em up there are a few.

 

[balboa270]

Thank you

 

[balboa270]

UDCA good for liver care ( Ursodeoxycholic acid)? What are best liver protectors and cleansers besides liv-52 which is what I have?

Any one use this for liver?

 

[vught]

Essential Forte (naps)

 

[lifelearning]

I don't understand why you are only running the prop for 5 weeks? Also sust for 6 weeks. You arent going to benefit nearly as much. Actually you're just scratching the surface of solid gains.

My opininion:

Prop at least 8 weeks

Sust at least 12 weeks

 

[balboa270]

Week 4 shop gone running strong energy back up.after dropping dbol note experimented dbol 10 main morning the rest 1 1/2 before workout was best for me tried through out day it sucked and yes my diets good this is what worked for me. Thinking of upping to 600 mg of test prop any thoughts