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deep80

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Have already posted my cycle, but need some input is poss.

Cycle History: 5 cycles, last two included tren (test-e at 500mg/tren-e at 400mg).

After MUCH researching, I have decided to switch ratios, and have Test-E between 350/400mg p/w and Tren-E up to 600mg p/w

I shall be kickstarting with Tren-A EOD at 50mg for 5 weeks. (T3, Prami, Exem, HCG etc all covered)

SO, the cycle currently looks like:

Week 1-14: Test-e 350/400mg
Week 1-12: Tren-e 400/600mg
Week 1-5: Tren-a 50mg EOD

My question is, should I add some test-prop at the begining of the cycle?

Option 1) Add the test prop at 100mg EOD for 5 weeks alongside Tren-A
Option 2) No test-prop
Option 3) Run the test-e for 12 weeks, alongside the Tren-A, and finish off with Test-p for 2/3weeks at 100mg/eod


Thoughts and opinions?
 
Revised cycle:

Test-E: Week1-12 150mg x 2 (300mg pw)
Test-P: Week1-4 50mg EOD tapering down to 25mg EOD at week 4
Week 12-14 50mg EOD till pct

Tren-E: Week1-5 200mg x 2 (400mg pw)
Week5-10 300mg x 2 (600mg pw)

Tren-A: Week1-5 75mg EOD tapering down to 20 EOD by week 5
 
deep80 said:
Revised cycle:

Test-E: Week1-12 150mg x 2 (300mg pw)
Test-P: Week1-4 50mg EOD tapering down to 25mg EOD at week 4
Week 12-14 50mg EOD till pct

Tren-E: Week1-5 200mg x 2 (400mg pw)
Week5-10 300mg x 2 (600mg pw)

Tren-A: Week1-5 75mg EOD tapering down to 20 EOD by week 5
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Looks good to me. Should be a nice cycle. :spin:
 
May extend cycle with higher dose of test-e at the end of cycle, or run test-prop for more than 2 weeks to get an additional week or two out of the cycle.
 
Why do guys make these cycles more complicating then they need to be...seriously. wtf us up with the tapering...pointless....wtf is up with changing your dosages...do you like getting more sides? Why stop the tren before the test when they are both the same ester? You have ran 5 cycles and this is the shit you came up with...u do need advice
 
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Some rationale would be appreciated for why they need to be run for the same lengths and for the tapering issue
 
deep80 said:
Some rationale would be appreciated for why they need to be run for the same lengths and for the tapering issue
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There is no need to taper off gear, because 50mg of tren is gonna keep you shut down just as much as 300mg. Just hit it hard till the end, then come off and pct.
 
My previous 2 cycles were straight test-e 500mg with tren-e 400mg, test for 14 weeks and the tren for 12. I will run the tren and test for 12 weeks, and just finish with the prop until post cycle therapy (pct). My question was, is it worthwhile (will there be any worthwhile gains), in finishing for prop for 3 weeks instead of two if its bumped up a little? If I am still using low does test, even up to post cycle therapy (pct), then there is no point in the additional week. This forum, I hope is for constructive learning, and with so much information, and a lot of based on personal experience, so a lot of conflicting information, everyone is trying to make a decisive choice.
 
deep80 said:
My previous 2 cycles were straight test-e 500mg with tren-e 400mg, test for 14 weeks and the tren for 12. I will run the tren and test for 12 weeks, and just finish with the prop until post cycle therapy (pct). My question was, is it worthwhile (will there be any worthwhile gains), in finishing for prop for 3 weeks instead of two if its bumped up a little? If I am still using low does test, even up to post cycle therapy (pct), then there is no point in the additional week. This forum, I hope is for constructive learning, and with so much information, and a lot of based on personal experience, so a lot of conflicting information, everyone is trying to make a decisive choice.
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you told me the cycle but you didnt tell us the results. knowing how other cycles went helps us give you better advice.
 
The results: First few weeks of the cycle were comparable to running any other cycle, since I was using longer esters, didnt really 'feel' (based on sides), until week 4, gains were pretty consistent after that, strength was good, with little fat gain (training and diet is always my strong point), recovery was great, with high cals and all the ancilliaries to aide.

So for simplicity sake, I shall do the following (and as a way to try tren higher than test):

Test-e at 250mg for 12 weeks
Test-p at 50mg EOD for the first 3 weeks
and the last two weeks until PCT
Tren-e at 600mg for 12 weeks
Tren-A at 75mg EOD for the first 3 weeks.

How does that sound?
 
What's the point of running the test prop at the end of the cycle??
Your still gonna have your reg dose of test E in you for those two weeks and your just spiking it with the prop

I understand at the beginning because it takes time for the esters to build
 
i usually just frontload the test-e and tren-e for the first 2 shots @ full weekly doses, then start the cycle as planned, to peak blood plasma levels right off the bat. IMHO, i notice tren-E pretty quick as is, i wouldn't even see the need personally to start off with ace and prop and then switch over. i wouldn't recommend a frontload to someone who has never used tren before, but to anyone else who knows how the sides affect them, it works pretty well. with this method i am totally feeling it by the start of week 3.
 
There will be no switching over, the enanthates will begin at the same time as the prop/ace. Not a fan of 'frontloading', and not a fan of orals hence the shorter esters to 'kickstart'
 
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