Human/pharm grade VS ug's

I've been juicing pretty heavy sonce 2001, every cycle I have dont except one or two has all been UG. I found that if you have the right UGL then I do prefer it over HG. One of the main reasons is fakes, I have seen human grade fake amps with laser etching on the amp...even the sources cant tell the difference anymore. Where as the two labs I use have always been bang on, and have been around a long time, so its in their best interest to keep their products good.
Anyone who has seen my progress over the years can attest to how good the UG stuff can be
 
I've been juicing pretty heavy sonce 2001, every cycle I have dont except one or two has all been UG. I found that if you have the right UGL then I do prefer it over HG. One of the main reasons is fakes, I have seen human grade fake amps with laser etching on the amp...even the sources cant tell the difference anymore. Where as the two labs I use have always been bang on, and have been around a long time, so its in their best interest to keep their products good.
Anyone who has seen my progress over the years can attest to how good the UG stuff can be

yep had some 1ml vials going around here of sus, imo they were slightly under dosed, maybe used three esters instead of four. point being we compared it to the real thing the vials were exctact apart from the rings being slightly diff, and the product info was on a different sort of paper.
 
What i like in UG, is than i can reach any brand founder, or site owner, or resellers.

you can't make it with pharma. Also, one time you have a good relationship with UGs you can not be scammed, or get fakes.

you can't with pharma.
 
IMO the only good thing with UGL is that they often do higher concentrations per ml.. because its purely intended to bbing and not to HRT or so

i dont know any pharma brand producing >100mg/ml deca
 
I've been juicing pretty heavy sonce 2001, every cycle I have dont except one or two has all been UG. I found that if you have the right UGL then I do prefer it over HG. One of the main reasons is fakes, I have seen human grade fake amps with laser etching on the amp...even the sources cant tell the difference anymore. Where as the two labs I use have always been bang on, and have been around a long time, so its in their best interest to keep their products good.
Anyone who has seen my progress over the years can attest to how good the UG stuff can be

This is a post I was waiting for.So your only issue is fakes...that won't be an issue in my case, just price.
What i would really like to see is some pictures of the actual ug labs, i would love to see how sterile some of the bigger guys are.
And i agree with sources not even being able to tell the difference between fake and real anymore, some of the forgeries are unreal now.
 
IMO the only good thing with UGL is that they often do higher concentrations per ml.. because its purely intended to bbing and not to HRT or so

i dont know any pharma brand producing >100mg/ml deca

You meen any pharma brand producing higher concentrations then 100mg/ml deca???
 
I will take Human grade over underground every time. Why? Because $$ isn't an issue for me. I care what I put in my body as I get older. I know %100 sure that my source and his gear is %100 legit...no concerns there. Cant stand pain....why would I need too wait 3 to 4 days after an injection from high B.A content or whatever to recover? limping around like lame horse. Cant work the upper body or lower body because I'm hurting! Dreading the next painful shot. Never have to be concerned with under or over dosing.

The main reason I see people using underground is because they can't find legit Human grade...next they cant' afford or want to pay the extra amount for human grade.

Note: I have never had an infection or an abscess!
 
What i like in UG, is than i can reach any brand founder, or site owner, or resellers.

you can't make it with pharma. Also, one time you have a good relationship with UGs you can not be scammed, or get fakes.

you can't with pharma.

there is a huge difference between you buying fake pharm grade products, and an underground lab producing fake/poorly dosed/non sterile products

strictly speaking about gear and not sources, pharm grade is the way to go
 
Dont even get me started on this topic. If you really want to know the answer to the question from this post, PM me, and I will come here to answer it. It will be a lot of reading, though. But to answer it in a few words...

Human Grade is much better if cost is not an issue.
 
Forgot that I keep up with the times and EDUCATE myself on a regular basis as to whats real and fake by checking out international boards. But in the end it boils down to your source. If he is tried tested and true and it's in his best interest to keep clients not fack them over. You buy fake gear from someone once and find out...your not going to go back. Sorry but some people just have all the connections as well.
 
I have run both, and cost is not an issue, but frankly I still prefer UG, maybe it helps that I know the people behind the labs so I trust the quality
either way, after having run both, I never saw anything significantly better with HG
 
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