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DADAWG said:not everyone has much if any joint pain even though some have a terrible time with it . winnie is good for strength and adds moderate lean mass gains . speed athletes seem to love it for some reason . winnie dries you out and leaves you looking leaner than you are [ temporary ] .that being said i dont see myself useing it any time soon lol .
rockape76 said:winny gets floged on these forums second only to deca.....
winstrol provides good lean mass gains that are easily kept post cycle, its a great pre contest drug and is responsible for many a ripped physique....whilst it may not shed fat its great for inclusion in cutting cycles...and its well tolerated in men....
i think its bad rep comes from the fact gains are minimal compared to test,that said the gains are of a higher quality...as far as side effects go i think its totally overblown
no one i no has any of the problems of hairloss,joint pain etc......but it seems like a lot of people only have to order a bottle to have these effects........winny is not without
fault and if you really wanted to bash it youd talk about its effects on hdl/ldl ratio...
personally my bloodwork doesnt come back "that bad" and returns to baseline within 4-8weeks generally......overall i love winstrol especially in the summertime another long term user and fan is gator mclusky..........i think before anyone condems a drug based on opinions on an internet forum they should try it for themselves...then make a decision.......because if you didnt youd never try winnie or deca and i think you miss out on what are two very good steroids that every user should try.........flame on
I highlighted the bullshit parts of your post in boldface.rockape76 said:winny gets floged on these forums second only to deca.....
winstrol provides good lean mass gains that are easily kept post cycle, its a great pre contest drug and is responsible for many a ripped physique....whilst it may not shed fat its great for inclusion in cutting cycles...and its well tolerated in men....
i think its bad rep comes from the fact gains are minimal compared to test,that said the gains are of a higher quality...as far as side effects go i think its totally overblown
no one i no has any of the problems of hairloss,joint pain etc......but it seems like a lot of people only have to order a bottle to have these effects........winny is not without
fault and if you really wanted to bash it youd talk about its effects on hdl/ldl ratio...
personally my bloodwork doesnt come back "that bad" and returns to baseline within 4-8weeks generally......overall i love winstrol especially in the summertime another long term user and fan is gator mclusky..........i think before anyone condems a drug based on opinions on an internet forum they should try it for themselves...then make a decision.......because if you didnt youd never try winnie or deca and i think you miss out on what are two very good steroids that every user should try.........flame on
mranak said:I highlighted the bullshit parts of your post in boldface.
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How are gains more easily kept. Are you saying Winstrol (winny) is less inhibiting than other AAS? Id have to argue against that and besides time is a key factor.rockape76 said:mranak i respect your opinion ,
but if your going to highlight things and say there bullshit perhaps you could back it up with reasons why........in my experience and that of my associates
1.the gains are easily kept post cycle
2.there of a higher lean mass quality than test
3.winstrol plays a major part in the ripped /dry look prevalent today not only at shows......but beaches and local gyms
.....and i pretty much highlighted the lipid problems in my original post.....
......and i know a couple of guys on this board who have been scared off from using these compounds after hearing all the "horror" stories on the board.....what youve got to understand is im not running around going hey use winny.....use it now....im presenting an unbiased users account...
so people can make up there own minds......
.DougoeFre5h said:How are gains more easily kept. Are you saying Winstrol (winny) is less inhibiting than other AAS? Id have to argue against that and besides time is a key factor.
Define lean mass. Define quality. If you mean without water, then sure but I guess that would also mean that you suspect people who use say... test arent smart enough to control bloat and estrogen - because test will kick the pants off of Winstrol (winny) taken side by side, alone at usual doses.
Winny does tend to dry out the physique, many get that confused with getting "ripped" aka losing bodyfat to the point where you see striations and vasularity. If seen a lot of really cut guys with a film of water, that aint ripped. In this case Im going to agree, Winstrol (winny) can dry out a physique and improve the look at single digit bodyfat.