Injection Pain 120 Hours After Last Pin. Doh!

koi

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Guys,

I don't think I have an infection/abscess; I have no signs of fever (temp taken each day). However it's been 120 hours since I took my last shot and I'm still in a lot of pain. I'm slightly concerned as I really hoped today I would wake up and the pain would be gone. I was rather stupid and pinned the same place from the week before (which I thought would be OK)
In the past I’ve had heat and swelling in a muscle I’ve shot but it’s always disappeared after 2 or 3 days maximum. It has been 5 days now.

On Saturday lunchtime I shot my right quad with 2.2ml of testoviron, high up (around 3-4 inches from a hand-span down from hip) in the outside area. I used a pin to draw and a fresh pin to inject. I heated the syringe with a hairdryer before injecting to make sure the solution was nice and warm. The whole session was sterile, I wiped everything down with alcohol including injection site. I had shaved the area already and made sure I wasn’t near any hair follicle. I also waited 5 minutes for the alcohol and the injection site to dry before injecting.

I injected with a 1" 23G pin. I aspirated as usual and injected very slowly over 2 minutes with complete control of the needle and no movement of the pin within the muscle. I then massaged the area afterwards and went and did a great leg work out. I felt great.

24 hours later on Sunday my right quad was extremely swollen and very hot. It was quite painful to walk.

48 hours later the pain was worse and a red patch had developed covering most of the muscle starting a few inches under the injection site and travelling down to my knee. (Maybe the oil dispersing downwards?) The muscle still very hot to touch, very swollen and very painful.

72 hours later the pain hadn't got any worse, however the quad was still very swollen and hot to touch. Now taking pain killers for the pain (I would normally never take a pain killer) and valium to sleep.
96 Hours later the pain is still the same, the swelling is going down slightly, but a lot of heat still in the area. Walking like a retard.

120 hours later (today) the heat has now left the area and the redness has gone, however the quad still hurts like hell and I’m still walking like a retard.
I’m hoping it was just the depot crashing out and irritating the muscle as I have read in many posts before. Or maybe I had developed a slight infection and it’s healing now.

It’s been a real pain in the ass (or should I say leg, ha ha) as I haven’t been able to do any sprinting the past 4 mornings and I don’t think I should be doing legs on Saturday.

Still only 2 pins left and I’m done on this cycle... I guess it’s the left glute and the right glute for me now.

Has anyone else had this experience? What’s the longest anyone has had the pain last for?

Koi.
 
Im not sure about your experience there...Mine is close to it with out the heat and the traveling redness. Everytime I start a cycle with sus the beginning is the worse. I get a swollen area about 3 inches around 20min after pin...feels fine for the first day....then the second day hits and its like I have a dead leg because I cant use it the pain is so fukin bad...at the beginning that pain lasts up to 6 days before its completely gone...im in week 5 now and I still get a little pain but barely. Its all worth it to me though :)
 
I've never had this last so long or an area go red. Normally when I pin my leg it's fine, about 24 hours later it gets a little swollen and sore, then by 48-72 hours is back to normal again. I guess pinning the same spot twice so soon wasn't the greatest idea.

This was about my 6th pin in my right quad (I normally alternate weekly between right glute and right quad) so I thought it would have been used to it by now

I agree it's worth the pain...

Koi.
 
ive had a similar experince and it was horrible. i injected 2 cc's of super test 450 into virgin muscle in my right upper quad.

what strenght was the testovirn Koi?
 
Man, what brand of stuff were you using? I don't have a lot of experience with steroid IM injections but do have significant experience with other IM, IV, SubQ etc injections. That just doesn't sound right.

Remember, this is a fucking IM injection, done all the time. It sounds like you have to go through one hell of a ritual to make it tolerable.

Is your shit good? What you described sounds like an infection.

You are sure you are in the muscle belly right? No out lateral over the fascia lata? Laterally there are a lot of perforating blood vessels and not as much muscle as a little more anterior in the meat of the lateralis.

If you have contaminated shit it doesn't matter if you shower in betadine, chlorhexidine and dry with absolute ethanol you will have an inflammatory reaction.

Either way, dont do it in the same place every time.
 
I'm using Bayer/Schering Testoviron at 250mg/1ml. It's definitely 100% legit stuff.

Nate, I've attached a picture from the web. Where the guy's left hand holding the measuring tape is where I injected. I darted the needle in perpendicular to the skin, no angling it, just straight. I've done it like this 5-6 times before with the same gear with no issues.

R1 - how long did yours last for? It's day 6 for me now, and it's still slightly painful today, like someone has given me a good kick to the muscle.

The good news is I have the full motion range of the muscle back. I just did 50 air-squats comfortably and can actually walk around properly. I'm going to skip legs tomorrow at the gym and leave them another week before training them.

It's pinning day tomorrow and I'm rather nervous now about shooting anywhere. I can't have a repeat of this again. LOL.

Koi.
 
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I'm using Bayer/Schering Testoviron at 250mg/1ml. It's definitely 100% legit stuff.

Nate, I've attached a picture from the web. Where the guy's left hand holding the measuring tape is where I injected. I darted the needle in perpendicular to the skin, no angling it, just straight. I've done it like this 5-6 times before with the same gear with no issues.

R1 - how long did yours last for? It's day 6 for me now, and it's still slightly painful today, like someone has given me a good kick to the muscle.

The good news is I have the full motion range of the muscle back. I just did 50 air-squats comfortably and can actually walk around properly. I'm going to skip legs tomorrow at the gym and leave them another week before training them.

It's pinning day tomorrow and I'm rather nervous now about shooting anywhere. I can't have a repeat of this again. LOL.

Koi.

That looks about right, just make sure you are sort of in the anterior belly of the vastus lateralis where there is alot of meat to work with.

It is possible you developed a hematoma in there, they can initiate an inflammatory reaction due to the sitting blood and even in a sterile environment will memic an infections process.

Are you hubbing the needle when you stick it in? With a 1", and if you have some significant fat there it is possible you didn't make it into the muscle, again if you are fat and didn't stick it deep, but this is probably not the case.

Also, I am assuming you are not on any anticoagulants, this would include theraputic doses of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen, aspirin, coumadin etc. Probably not but this, if you went through a big perferator, could have caused a hematoma to develop that would otherwise have clotted off.

Those are just some ideas. Keep the heat on it and I would do some stationary bike to increase the circulation. Alternating heat and cold also helps. You want to flush out the inflammatory mediators, that will help the pain and the other symptoms.

I hope it gets better.
 
@Misc - I make sure my environment is very sterile. One needle for drawing, one for injection. I never re-use the needle. I wipe my whole desk down with alcohol before laying out my stuff. I wipe down the injection spot with alcohol and let it dry before injecting. I'm very OCD about doing this.

@Nate - thanks for the information. I'm glad to know I was hitting the right spot. I do have a bit of fat on my legs. I'm hubbing the 1" needle and it's definitely going in to the muscle. Maybe next time I will use a 1.5" and not go all the way to the hub. I'm not on any medication except for anavar, lol...

The leg is much better now. The swelling has gone and the heat has left the area. I have full motion of my leg now. There is just a dull ache when I walk. I'm hitting the gym tonight so will do 20 mins on the bike and again tomorrow morning.

It's just a bit worrying when this happens as all other injections have gone well. The old mind gets a bit carried away...

Koi.
 
Yea, given you havn't had problems before my guess is you got into a vessle and bled a little. Who knows.
 
Hopefully it's not a shard of glass from the vial... I wonder if that's ever happened to anyone?
 
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