Injection pain & site

[Shapza]

Hi guys,

I am currently running:

Tren 1ml eod
Test Prop 1ml eod
EQ 1ml eod

I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I have been injecting in the glute but I have found the gear is sitting in the glute for a few days causing irritation (redness of the skin) / lump under skin / pain.

Im not too bothered about the pain but it is stopping me injecting on the next side when it comes to that side again.I am alternating sides but doesnt seem to breaking down in time for the next shot.

Is this normal? How can I reduce the time of the steroid staying in the injection site?

Also, im thinking of moving to the quad.... Has anyone injected Tren / Test / EQ in the quad? Ive heard mixed reviews.

Thanks guys,

Much love

 

[Teutonic]

Welcome to Ology...

When you have time introduce urself properly as we d like to know u better and it s POLITE.

Now about your pain in the ass.

Pinning 3 ml s e o d into only 2 sites is a quaranteed sore glute-glutes and your pushing the envelope of serious pain and god forbid, infection or worse.
There are several pinning schedules on line but I ll save you the 1 min it d take and suggest this....
Glutes -left, right ( after they heal)
Upper quads- left right
Delts-left right
I m o - only your glute ( I don t know you) can take a 3 ml load.. Quads vary from people depending on quad size and PAIN TOLERANCE. I do 2 ml s in quads max but I m older and SMARTER. Delts get 1.5 ml max.
What size needle ur using matters both gauge and length. I hit upper quads where my skin is thin and being ex soccer phenom powerlifter my muscle s dense. I use a 25 g, 5/8 inch but bear in mind I do very light cycles.

Y R U pinning EQ e o d? Love the pain ?
Hope that helped.

 

[Shapza]

Thank you for your speedy reply.

Apologies for not introducing myself.

I am 26 been training for 8 years (ex rugby player) I weight 119kg - 5 ft 11

This is my 2nd cycle. First cycle was much less injections as had to inject one shot per week, was using Deca stack.

I use 23 gauge 1¼ inch to inject and use 21 gauge 1.5 inch to draw.

My glutes circumference 120cm
My thigh circumference 73cm
Thanks to many years of playing forward on the rugby field.

Would it make sense to split the load instead of 3ml per shot to 2ml and 1ml in different sites throughout the week?

1ml quad / 1ml quad / 1ml delt....

Tren is taking its toll on my body with TRENmares and all the other stuff that comes with using TREN. I dont think I will continue TREN so I will be down to 1ml test / 1ml EQ might be easier to take in 1 shot.

Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.

 

[Teutonic]

Thank you Shapza for shedding light. A forward playing Rugby ???Geex..ur no stranger to pain..my apologies Sir.!!

U know u can mix oils, right ? Y not split the difference and use 1.5 cc per pin and yes I d definitely take qlute s, at least the injured OUT OF the rotation or pin in an unaffected area later. Repeated pinning in 1 spot will result in scar tissue, eventually it ll be hard as hell and wil be both harder to pin through, it s not living tissue, ie it s almost non absorbant w respect to intro. compound s to blood system...you ll get less gear in your system to work for you.

I would go with 1.5 cc or 2 cc in my quads and 1 in delts. U ll have to figger it out of course. And if ur lean, and most quads/delts are...I m o opinion u can go with 3/4 or 1.0 inch. Y harpoon urself if the needs not there, eh ?

Tren mares suck. Tren somnia, tren psychosis tren paranoia etc. too.
But I love it. I do (when I do ) 50 mg tren a /50 mg prop M W F added to my trt on Sunday s ( Bath day in Mississippi)
This low dose while still hindering long sleep duration s is more than manageable for me. Ur young enough to want to be huge so it s ur move. I m old enuff to be satisfied w the gay porn star look.

Cheers

 

[.Vision.]

What TEUT suggested is spot on..

I agree and often advocate the same mL volume per sites, this is what works best to minimize site irritation... delts 1.5 (I dont care how massive someone is, you dont need much).. 3 mL glutes, but I use 2.0 or 2.5...1 mL for VG and 1.5 of quads.. My days of tris,bi's, and chest have long left the building.. These are my go to spots..
also, try inject before the shower and let the HOT water run on the injection site and just rub it out with soup (the lathering helps with massaging the area better).. some people inject after the shower when they're relaxed, but the oil still sits there so I don't see the point.. I notice pre shower works best for "ME"..

Try to limit the amount of volume, and change sites, if you get worried about a new site you can always ask us here or go on youtube and listen to some vids made by nurses or Dr explaining TRT shots (same thing).. Some vids made by the average Joe can be helpful, but avoid them if you can because I seen some real clowns on there..

Also keep in mind that site irritation is norm, because you invaded the area.. The BB/BA solvents can cause site irritation, or if your using high volume per area (more hormones) the solvents could be getting absorbed faster then the hormone, leaving a volume of hormone behind taking a bit longer to metabolize, thus agitating the local nerves or lymphatic system , especially if they are sitting near or around them..

Do yourself a huge favor and rotate, do NOT go back to the same region (especially with EQ) for well over 7-8 days (or longer if you could), as you have many more options avail.. you can develop a nasty infection or abscess in no time..especially if you're sites are not use to injections.. carriers and solvents and hormones being invaders can cause some discomfort..Just rotate and take it from there!

 

[Shapza]

Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the advice.

Im going to start rotating not just left / right glute but other areas as well. Im also going to do smaller amounts per site. 1ml test in 1 area and 1ml EQ in another, this way I can make sure there is more then enough time between sites and good heal time.

Im going to try all the little tips as well to avoid PIP.

How much do you think 1 quad can take.... To see my tolerance im thinking my next shot which is tomorrow btw Im going to do 1ml left quad / 1ml right quad. Gives my glutes some time to heal and gives me time to get some smaller needles for my delts. That way I can cycle between delts / quads / glutes.

What do you think?

Also now that Im not on the TREN as I got ridiculous nose bleeds Im thinking of NPP, what are your thoughts on that?

You guys have been a great help.

Cheers

1) warm oil up
2) heat pads
3) shower before shot

 

[.Vision.]

Also, if you get a bit of a lump or site pain (it happens) use the heat pad like you have.. But heres an other idea. I use large river stones, I place one in the oven, and let them get hot ( it will stay hot/warm for a long time ) and then I wrap it in a sock or cloth and just let it sit on the area in need..

I also have a cloth bag (you can use a sock) and fill it will plain rice, heat it in the micro (dry of course) and apply to the area..

I'll use these now and then as shit does happen and we get a bad injection, I like the warm rocks better as they feel much better and tend to get a deeper penetration with radiant heat!

just some ideas

 

[luckypaul]

3ml is a lot of gear to inject eod. Next time around use test e or cyp. This way you can use other sites to inject like delts for tren. Use glutes and quads for test e and eq. You can inject one ml tren no problem in delts.

Save test prop for the end of your cycle or for a cut. For me the less injecting the better. Test prop is a very useful compound, but it's a bitch to inject eod throughout your cycle.

 

[tbonexl]

Yea you only have to inject eq twice a week. Shouldn't be hitting the same injection site within 7 days atleast. You really don't have to be pinning 3cc's eod...

 

[Shapza]

Hi guys,

Just a quick question, on Friday I injected my quad with 1ml test prop / 1ml EQ. It was my first time injecting quad as I normally use my glutes. I used a blue needle to inject. It was so much easier then the glutes as I had good control over the needle and even / slow pressure on the plunger. I also heated the gear up first before injecting.

I used my upper / outer quad for the site. I felt great the whole of Friday, by the evening I felt a small pain in my knee (right side) nowhere close to the injection site. By Saturday morning I couldnt put pressure on my right leg as my knee was in so much pain and slightly swollen. It is now Monday and still no easing up on the pain.

I read somewhere that it could have been that I missed the muscle or my placement was bad. I followed the tutorials and guides and I feel I got the correct area. Also I read it could be the gear is not good quality but I have used the brand before without this problem when injecting my glutes.

I need to take another shot today but worried that if I do my left quad I wont be able to do my work as I will have 2 bad legs....

Has anyone experienced this and can they help me understand why its happened and what needs to be done to prevent it from happening again. Are there any techniques to get rid of this pain?

Thanks guys

 

[Hypnotix]

If this is your first time injecting quads you will likely have pain. Virgin muscle soreness/tightness/pain/lock-up, applies to every new muscle you incorporate.

I didn't realize you posted this in your own thread already.. why'd you double post the same question? lol

Anyway.. you may have missed the muscle, but it will still get absorbed just fine. It's hard to say what really happened though if it was your first time pinning that area. Just part of the game. Keep rotating to the Left one next.. can't avoid developing a healthy pinning rotation! Even if it means, your quads, delts, and ventro-glutes are sore AF the first few times around with them. Your body will get used to it, and you won't think twice about the area again.

To add to your other inquiry though while using my personal experience to help, I don't like injecting more than 1 mL in Delts. However, Standard Glute site, Ventro Glute site, and Quad site are all good for me above that amount. Seems like I can never get a perfect pin in Delts, and I've tried dropping it into different locations around the area recommended.. always ends up missing muscle or just pooling up next to a nerve and limiting my range of motion at work. Nothings worse than having to work overhead all day when every time you lift your arm it pushes against a nerve and causes pain (every minute).

It may be needle length in my case.. my shoulders are pretty lean, but I'm not a huge guy so.. I may be pushing it through and through the tissue I'm after..

You'll have to man up and handle the pain for a while until you're adapted, but don't stray from doing the opposite side next time around. Rotate, Rotate, Rotate.

 

[Teutonic]

OP
Hyp s right. Both in his post and the other thread s hi jacking. It s all good though...it s a tough audience but if we don t adhere to proper protocol we get kids axin why dey hurtin here ther everywhere.

I am not disrespecting you my large Rugby player friend but virgin muscle react s to pinning like a virgin lass to a stud s aggressive pounding...it hurts. I use a 5/8 inch 25 g pin and hit the very top of my guad but never ever exceed 1.5 cc. Delt s Hyp are tricky not just cuz of the thickness or lack thereof of the muscle but the shoulder is so damn complex and u use it constantly from feeding yourself, wiping ur ass to maintaining balance when walking. Look at the range of motion...it s a miracle of bio-mechanics. I ve taken them out of my rotation...I do quads only but then my lil blast s are very very light...and having been a comp snow skier, soccer phenom, powerlifting 198 class background they are solid if not massive.